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TRAN THANG LAM AND OTHERS v. THE DIRECTOR OF IMMIGRATION

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TRAN THANG LAM AND OTHERS v. THE DIRECTOR OF IMMIGRATION

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HCAL000080C/1997

HCAL80/1997

IN THE HIGH COURT OF THE

HONG KONG SPECIAL ADMINISTRATIVE REGION

COURT OF FIRST INSTANCE

CONSTITUTIONAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE LAW LIST

NO.80 OF 1997

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BETWEEN
TRAN THANG LAM AND OTHERS1st Applicant
2nd - 116th Applicants
AND
THE DIRECTOR OF IMMIGRATIONRespondent

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Coram: Hon Stock J in Court

Dates of Hearing: 24-28 and 31 January and 1-3, 8-11, 14, 16-18 February 2000

Date of Judgment: 20 April 2000

 

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J U D G M E N T

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STAGE TWO

1. This is the second stage of the determination of substantive, as opposed to interlocutory, issues in this judicial review. The extensive background to the case is summarised in the judgment delivered by this court in September 1998 (see Tran Thang Lam v. The Director of Immigration [1998] 2 HKLRD 789, 797-802). What is challenged by the applicants are removal orders by the Director of Immigration ("the Director") in the summer of 1997. The Director decided that the applicants were refugees from Vietnam in China and allowed them to remain in Hong Kong under the provisions of section 13A(1) of the Immigration Ordinance; but then made removal orders under section 13E of that Ordinance, because the view was taken that these applicants, who had lived for many years on the Mainland before coming to Hong Kong had, on the Mainland, been granted durable solutions, and that the Mainland authorities had offered to take them back and resettle them, and that there was no reasonable ground for the applicants to refuse to accept that offer. These determinations had been made after a screening exercise which engaged the attention of a number of immigration officers who then put their recommendations before Mr P.T. Choy ("Mr Choy"), then Assistant Director of Immigration, who decided the cases on behalf of the Director, being empowered by law to do so.

2. This screening exercise followed a decision of the Privy Council in Nguyen Tuan Cuong & Others v. Director of Immigration & Others [1997] HKLRD 73, as a result of which the Director was ordered to consider the applicants' claims to remain in Hong Kong as refugees and, if the result was adverse to the applicants, then to serve a notice on the applicants which would have triggered a review by the Refugee Status Review Board.

3. Before the hearing of the first stage of the substantive application for judicial review, the applicants had been given leave to amend the grounds of their application, and by the time of that hearing the issues were so numerous, and the evidence so voluminous, that it was decided that the case could best be managed by isolating a number of central issues for my determination : that might or might not dispose of the case, but even if it did not, it might make the remainder of the case, and the determination of a number of outstanding interlocutory issues, easier to manage. We have called the July 1998 hearing of the five substantive issues then identified the first stage of the main or substantive hearing.

4. The main issues at that first stage were decided against the applicants. The main issues then decided are evident from the conclusions summarized at page 855 of the September 1998 judgment :

"CONCLUSIONS

The answers therefore to the questions posed are as follows:

(1) (a) The Director, having determined in an exercise conducted under s.13A of the Immigration Ordinance (Cap.115) that the applicants were refugees from Vietnam in China, was bound to permit them to remain in Hong Kong pending resettlement, but was not in the circumstances of this case bound to provide them with an opportunity to seek resettlement in a country other than China.

(b) The Director was entitled, as a matter of law, and in the circumstances of this case, immediately after granting such a person permission to remain under s.13A, to make a removal order under s.13E.

(2) None of the reasons given by the Director in the notices of determination for making the removal orders was bad as taking into account irrelevant considerations, or as failing to take into account relevant considerations, or as resulting from a misconstruction of law or documents relied upon. Although the Director has (or has probably) misread the intended effect of a passage in the judgment of the Privy Council in Nguyen Tuan Cuong & Others v Director of Immigration & Others [1997] HKLRD 73, [1997] 1 WLR 68, the misreading is of no consequence since the Director's conclusion as to the applicants' entitlement or lack of it was, as a matter of law, correct. Accordingly, the Director has by that misreading not misdirected herself in law or unlawfully fettered her discretion.

(3) The Director was not required to put to the applicants country condition evidence before making a final determination about them.

(4) The Director was (generally) not required to provide the applicants with copies of previous statements made by them which were used in the decision making process by the Director so as to enable them to comment upon or correct them.

(5) The Director was not, in the circumstances which prevailed, obliged to notify the applicants of her proposed decision to make removal orders under s.13E, or to state the grounds upon which she proposed to make her decision, or to provide documents relied upon."

5. In May 1999, I delivered a judgment upon an application to re-re-amend the application for leave. The applicants were, to a large extent, unsuccessful, although a few further amendments, which I saw as mere extensions of allegations for which leave had already been given, were permitted.

6. In the result, the outstanding contentions which fall for consideration at this the second substantive stage of the case are as follows :

(1) It is asserted that the Director of Immigration in the person of Mr P.T. Choy was biased or predisposed to disbelieve the applicants; and that his findings in each and every case that they had been settled on the Mainland, and the reasons for those findings, constituted an ex post facto rationalization which has little to do with the merits of any particular case.

(2) No evidence : it is said in effect that there is no evidence on which the Director could properly conclude that the applicants were provided with a durable solution on the Mainland - they had still not been naturalized or assimilated there and had not obtained the rights of nationals; that the evidence showed that they were denied the rights of refugees and not protected from refoulement; and that there was no evidence that the applicants would now be afforded such rights if returned.

I. BIAS AND PREDISPOSITION

7. This is an allegation that Mr Choy was predisposed to disbelieve whatever he or his officers were told by the applicants. There are advanced a number of particulars in support of that contention.

8. Without derogating from the individual attacks that are embraced by each of those separate grounds of complaint, the main thrust of the attack is that Mr Choy had, as far back as 1995, self-evidently committed himself to a stance against the applicants, when the applicants launched their proceedings in the Nguyen Tuan Cuong case; and that it is obvious from a reading of the affirmations which Mr Choy had placed before the court in that case, that he had come to an irrevocable view that all of those who came to Hong Kong from the Mainland and had lived on the Mainland for some years, having earlier been refugees from the turmoil on the Sino-Vietnamese border in the late 1970s, had been settled on the Mainland with household registration and the right to benefits that came with such registration, and that accordingly none had reasonable excuse to refuse the Mainland's offer to take them back. There was, so the argument ran, no preparedness by him to accept even the possibility that there might be some who had "fallen through the cracks", and who had not been absorbed by registration.

9. Whilst it is recognized by the applicants that the question for Mr Choy was not whether they had been settled by registration immediately before coming to Hong Kong but rather whether they had, at some stage, had household registration even if subsequently they had moved for their own reasons to places where they did not enjoy such registration, Mr Choy's mindset, it is said, was that they had each and every one of them been settled at some stage, and that nothing was going to budge him from that conclusion. The decisions in this case were, in other words, predetermined. What we have, so the argument goes, is a man so set in earlier conclusions that even without any conscious bias, he was nonetheless inevitably, even though, perhaps, unconsciously, biased against these applicants.

10. In order to persuade me that that was so, Mr Dykes took me to evidence filed by Mr Choy in 1995 and also in 1997, and to the respondent's case in the Privy Council, and to correspondence signed by Mr Choy. Then Mr Marshall took me to the hefty affirmation evidence filed by Mr Choy for the purpose of these proceedings in answer to many of the allegations.

THE NEED FOR ORAL EVIDENCE

11. But in the end, I had to hear Mr Choy's own evidence on the matter. I was, throughout the case, troubled by the fact that the language of Mr Choy's affirmations was so unlike any language that Mr Choy was likely to use, indeed so unlike the language that would be used by any lay person, no matter how well-versed in English and no matter how senior a civil servant, as significantly to diminish their utility. It is common practice that affirmations are drawn by legal advisers. Clients give instructions, and the affirmation is drafted so as to reflect those instructions in a chronological and orderly manner. But the language should be language which is the deponent's language in the sense that the deponent readily follows it and can say that it accurately represents precisely what he would wish to say. It must be language with which he can deal if he is asked to testify further to the matters deposed (see Alex Lawrie Factors Limited v. Morgan & Others, The Times, 18 August 1999). Whilst the client might wish to say that he has been advised by his lawyers that such and such is the position in law, lengthy passages from judgments and complex analysis of the law will have no place whatsoever in such affirmations. But Mr Choy's affirmations were riddled with them. In these circumstances, I permitted cross-examination. I wanted to know from Mr Choy's own mouth what his mindsets, if any, and assumptions and views at key times, were. I shall in due course return to his evidence, and to what I made of it.

12. I have also heard oral evidence from six other witnesses. There was a specific allegation that certain of the applicants had been told by immigration officials that the screening process was a formality and, at the time the screening interviews were conducted, that decisions had already been made to send the applicants back to the Mainland. This was not an issue that I could decide on the conflicting affirmations. I had to hear the complainants, and those against whom the complaints were made.

RELEVANT HISTORY

13. Something in the order of 280,000 ethnic Chinese went to China from Vietnam in 1978 and 1979. By mid-1988, 20,268 of that category had arrived in Hong Kong, and in mid-1993 there was a sudden influx into Hong Kong of more than 2,300 within a spell of two months. Over 23,700 have been returned from Hong Kong to the Mainland. Until 1995, the Chinese authorities would not take any such person back unless he or she had first been verified, by which I mean, identified as having settled previously in a particular place on the Mainland. There remained in Hong Kong by October 1994 a residual group, including the applicants, who had not been thus verified, and as a result of discussions, a team of Mainland officials came to Hong Kong in November 1994 and interviewed all those who remained. The number was 502, of whom 156 were immediately identified as having previously been settled on a specific resettlement enterprise on the Mainland. 40 were thus verified shortly after. They were all repatriated. It is said that as for the rest, the Mainland authorities were satisfied that, although specific locations had not been identified, the migrants had nonetheless all previously been settled, but that because of information or misinformation provided by the migrants, it had been difficult to locate their places of settlement. The Mainland authorities were confident, however, that these places would be identified in due course. This, according to the evidence I have received, was all made clear at a meeting in Shenzhen in March 1995 at which the Mainland officials stated that although some had not been verified, in that their identities had not been traced to their originating farms, the Mainland authorities were nonetheless prepared to take them back because they were satisfied that they had in fact been settled and registered on the Mainland.

14. In June 1995, 60 of those who remained were returned and upon or after their return, all were identified as having been settled in Guangdong (25 of the migrants), and in Guangxi (35 of them). That left a core of migrants in Hong Kong, constituting or including these applicants but, before they could be returned, they made their application for judicial review which became the Nguyen Tuan Cuong swathe of hearings.

15. The applicants had not been screened for refugee status and were refused permission to land, purportedly under section 11(1) of the Immigration Ordinance. They had been detained, however, under section 13D of the Ordinance, a provision empowering detention of former residents of Vietnam. No notices were served advising them of any right to apply for a review to the Board under section 13F. So they applied for judicial review of the decisions of the Director. At issue was the proper construction of Part IIIA of the Ordinance, in particular whether the applicants, having been detained under section 13D, were entitled to or had in effect received a determination under section 13A - and if there had been such a determination, then an entitlement to review by the Board arose. Then there was in issue whether by reason of a taped notice on their arrival, they had acquired a legitimate expectation that they would be given rights under Part IIIA. The judges at first instance and the Court of Appeal were at one that on the facts of the case the applicants had in effect been refused permission to remain as refugees under Part IIIA and had been detained under section 13D, so that they ought to have been given the chance to put their case to the Review Board. But, both at first instance and in the Court of Appeal, relief was, in the exercise of the courts' discretion, refused. In the Court of Appeal, the respondent amended the respondent's notice to read :

"In addition to deciding to refuse relief for the reasons set out, the learned judge should have also refused relief on the ground that such relief would be futile in that no useful purpose would be served by screening the applicants due to the acceptance by China of the applicants for settlement and resettlement and in accordance with the evidence before the court."

16. Two of the three judges in the Court of Appeal thought that the grant of relief would not assist the applicants because none claimed to be a refugee from China and also because "China has undertaken not only to take the applicants back but also to accord each household registration with all that entails" (per Mortimer JA, as he then was, at [1996] 6 HKPLR 62, 83). He thought that the Director's powers were wide enough for him to order removal under section 13E even if the applicants were given refugee status, and added that "as a former resident of China when China is prepared to take back and accord rights, the chances of him being resettled in any other part of the world within a reasonable time, or at all, must be so remote that they can be ignored". He was of the view that any relief granted would do no more than raise false hopes. Mayo JA, as he then was, was of the same opinion (see pages 85E-F). Bokhary JA, as he then was, wished to exercise discretion in favour of the applicants, saying that it was not clear beyond reasonable argument that they had all become properly resettled in China so that their Vietnamese refugee status was lost, and referred to a chance "even if only a slim one" of the applicants obtaining what they wanted at the hands of the Director or, if necessary, the Refugee Status Review Board.

17. As for the Privy Council, the majority held that there had in effect been a decision to refuse permission under section 13A to remain in Hong Kong as refugees, wherefor a Refugee Status Review Board notice ought to have been served. Sir John May ([1997] HKLRD 73, page 81) said :

"... The first issue on a review is likely to be whether the applicants have lost their status as refugees from Vietnam because of settlement in China. They claim, with supporting evidence, that in China they have been denied, inter alia, rights to work, to the education of their families, to marry, to own land, and to legal residence by household registration. There are even claims of a risk of being forced back to Vietnam. These various claims may be contested, and it is not a function of their Lordships in this appeal to attempt either to resolve them or to forecast how they will be resolved. If, however, they are made out, it would be open to the review board to find that the applicants have never lost their Vietnamese refugee status; and perhaps to find further that, within the meaning of s.13A(3)(a), they have reasonable excuse for not accepting any offer of resettlement in China. Nor can the possibility of their obtaining resettlement elsewhere be dismissed at this stage as altogether negligible.";

and at page 82 :

"The majority of the Court of Appeal held that relief should not be granted, even though the statutory right to it had been made out, on the ground that the only possible consequence of granting it would have been that the applicants would still in the end have all been sent back to China. This was not a conclusion which commended itself to Bokhary JA as he said :

'I do not think that one can go so far as to say that it is inevitable. Unless one assumes that the Director's mind is closed and will remain closed - which I do not assume - things are not as clear cut as that.'

Their Lordships are of the same view. It is at least possible that if these applicants obtain a review, the chance of some of them being resettled elsewhere than in China might well attract a Review Board, as it has in other countries such as Australia. On the material before their Lordships, a number of the applicants may have relatives in countries other than China where they could obtain ultimate refuge."

The order that was then made was as follows :

"An order of mandamus requiring the Director of Immigration to consider the applicant's claim to remain in Hong Kong as a refugee in accordance with Part IIIA of the Immigration Ordinance ...;

an order of mandamus requiring the Director to notify the applicants of his decision regarding their claim to remain in Hong Kong as a refugee, and if adverse, to serve or cause to be served a notice on the applicants in accordance with section 13D(3)."

18. There was no suggestion, nor any application, that this new exercise be entrusted to some new decision-maker who had not been involved in the original exercise.

19. For the purpose of the Nguyen Tuan Cuong judicial review, Mr Choy made a number of affirmations. The bulk of the attack, (though not the entire attack), under the heading "Bias" stems from the tenor and content of these affirmations.

THE PARTICULARS OF COMPLAINT

20. The particulars of complaint in the notice of application under this head are these :

"53. Furthermore the Director of Immigration was predisposed to disbelieve the Applicants and/or acting in bad faith and no fair determination of their claims could be made in the circumstances. The facts and matters relied on are:

(1) the decision-maker was Choy Ping Tai ('Choy'), an Assistant Director of Immigration.

(2) Choy has been intimately involved over the past few years in defending the merits of an unlawful policy which was designed to secure the Applicants' summary removal to the Mainland as if they were illegal immigrants with no rights under Part IIIA Immigration Ordinance, Cap 115.

(3) Choy has always maintained that the Mainland had settled all ethnic Chinese from Vietnam arriving there during and after the Sino-Vietnamese conflict.

(4) Choy relied exclusively on his own understanding of what conditions are like in the Mainland for ethnic Chinese who fled there from Vietnam.

(5) Choy did not find even one single claim made by the 116 Applicants that they had not been settled in the Mainland to be made out.

(6) It was not necessary for Choy to be the decision-maker. The definition of 'Director' in s 2 Immigration Ordinance, Cap 115 would have enabled the decisions to have been taken by the Director, the Deputy Director, any other assistant Director and any member of the Immigration Service of the rank of senior principal immigration officer.

(7) Choy never interviewed the Applicants. In several cases, the interviewing Immigration officer admitted that the interview with the Applicant was a formality and that the decision had already been made to send the Applicant to China.

(8) In related habeas corpus proceedings Choy deposed on 4 August 1997 in an affirmation ... that evidences his mind was closed to making favourable decisions in respect of the Applicants. In particular it evidences his belief that the Mainland had settled all refugees from Vietnam and there had been no instances of refoulement; see paragraph 52 of his affirmation. By that date Choy had not finished making the decisions which are the subject of challenge. The decisions challenged were made on 27 June 1997, 21 July 1997, 1 August 1997, 8 August 1997 and 6 October 1997.

(9) In a letter dated 21 May 1997 to the Applicants' solicitors ..., more than a month before any of the challenged decisions had been made, Choy referred to the fact that screening was underway and that he hoped that the Applicants would not take hasty and ill-advised judicial review proceedings.

(10) The Security Bureau approached resettlement countries with a view to seeing whether the Applicants could be accepted by them before the Applicants' refugee status had been recognized. The Security Bureau did not, as in other cases, make use of the UNHCR to facilitate the possibility of resettlement. The evidence of Choy was that the 'full position' (ie., Respondent's position only) had been put to the resettlement countries.

(11) Choy has referred throughout to the Applicants as illegal immigrants (ECVIIs) when, as found by the Privy Council, they were asylum seekers.

(12) The Director of Immigration appears to have adopted deliberately a procedure for making determinations about refugee status that deprived the Applicants of having any adverse decision udners.13A(1) reviewed by the Refugee Status Review Board, an independent body. By establishing a procedure which resulted in the Director recognizing the Applicants as refugees granted permission to remain in Hong Kong pending resettlement elsewhere but at the same time ordered their removal under s.13E, the Applicants were deprived of the opportunity of having an adverse decision under s.13A(1) reviewed by the Refugee Status Review Board which could have resulted in their release from detention under s.13F(5). An adverse decision under s.13A(1), which would be totally consistent with the Director's views about the status of the Applicants as persons whose claim to refugee status had been satisfied elsewhere, would have been that the Director recognized that an Applicant was a refugee but refused him/her permission to remain in Hong Kong pending resettlement elsewhere on account of the fact that his refugee status had been recognized in a country from which he would not be refouled."

MR CHOY'S EARLIER STATEMENTS

21. Paragraphs 2 to 4 can conveniently be examined by reference to passages in the affirmations to which Mr Dykes draws my attention and in respect of which Mr Choy was cross-examined. I do not intend to repeat each, for that would be a most lengthy exercise indeed. I shall take what I hope is a fairly representative sample :

22. In August 1995, Mr Choy said in an affirmation that :

" These persons were resettled in hundreds of farms spread over China but mainly in five provinces ... The provincial governments have a name list of the Vietnamese in their provinces and the farms have detailed records on all families and individuals.

China is a signatory country to the 1951 Convention and the 1967 Protocol relating to the status of refugees. According to the estimates of the Chinese, about 285,000 ethnic Chinese Vietnamese were properly resettled in China as refugees after leaving Vietnam in 1978 and 1979. These refugees were provided with protection recognised by the international community under the efforts of the Chinese government and the United Nationals High Commissioner for refugees.

Having settled in China, they would given household registration, jobs on the farms and school places for the children. ..."

And in the same affirmation :

"The Hong Kong government always holds the opinion that we should return to China the refugees who had been provided with appropriate and continuing protection by the Chinese government with the active involvement of the UNHCR."

And, yet further :

"ECVIIs are former residents of Vietnam who had been granted asylum or resettlement in China."

When referring to the residual cases in Hong Kong in August 1994, he said :

"These are very difficult cases. We have formed the view that some ECVIIs have purposely made false reports or used false identities to frustrate the attempts made by the Chinese authorities to positively identify them as former residents of China."

As to the attitude of the Mainland authorities :

"The Chinese authorities indicated to us that they believe the ECVIIs in Hong Kong have genuinely been settled or resided in China for some years, but because of their refusal to advise of their correct background in China, it would be difficult to verify their originating farms."

And, finally, for the purpose of the sample I have chosen :

"... screening [of Vietnamese migrants under the Statement of Understanding] ... was not [designed] for persons such as the applicants who have already been offered protection by China which is a resettlement country for Vietnamese refugees."

Passages such as these, it is said, evidence a settled and unacceptable disposition on the part of Mr Choy, prior to the decisions he was required to make in 1997 in relation to these applicants; a mind-set that all had in fact been settled; such that no fair and unbiased approach by him was possible.

MR CHOY'S ORAL TESTIMONY

23. Mr Choy was, for a number of reasons, at a disadvantage in giving testimony. First, he was dealing with matters that occurred some considerable time ago. That is a problem which faces many a witness, but the more salient point is that the order for his cross-examination was made one day before he was required to give evidence and a day prior to heavy commitments that engaged him before the Legislative Council. The time for refreshing his memory was therefore very short. There was a noticeable difference between the quality of the evidence on the first day of his testimony and that on the second. I was satisfied that he was an honest witness doing his best to recall events. He struck me as highly knowledgeable about his area of expertise (by which I mean the history, plight, and circumstances of those ethnic Chinese who left Vietnam for the Mainland in and after 1978 or 1979), and I am satisfied that the expertise which is represented by the affirmations is real. He was at times too ready to accept matters put to him, and that holds true for cross-examination as well as for re-examination. So, for example, there were occasions when he accepted that a part of an earlier affirmation was in error where in my judgment it was not. Conversely, in re-examination, he was taken to passages and asked to confirm them when sometimes he did so too readily. But I do not think that that was a sign of any dishonest or disingenuous approach. The subject was vast, the events a long time ago, and some of the passages put to him so convoluted that it would have been preferable for him to say that he had no idea what the phrase meant. It is also true that Mr Choy was not completely comfortable with his English phraseology. That comment is not intended offensively, but is a comment that I am bound to make because there was many an instance when the very words he used hid quite a different meaning, to which one became attuned as one became more familiar with his evidence. His oral evidence became more cogent and telling with the passage of time.

THE ASSESSMENT BY THE MAINLAND AUTHORITIES

24. The point that Mr Choy emphasized in his evidence was that in November 1994 and in March 1995 the conclusion that had been reached as to the status of the applicants was a conclusion that had been reached by the Mainland authorities based upon their records and, more particularly, upon the interviews which they had conducted in Hong Kong in November 1994. It was not then a question of Mr Choy making findings of his own whether this applicant or that applicant had or had not been settled; whether this applicant or that applicant had been given household registration. What the Hong Kong authorities had done was to provide to the Mainland authorities with the personal particulars of applicants, and photographs and addresses, and it was for the Mainland authorities then to conduct their investigations. They did so. They had on the spot in November 1994 come to clear conclusions in relation to at least 100 persons, and thereafter had satisfied themselves that the remaining applicants had in fact been settled, even in the case of those whose settlement at a particular farm had not been verified. There was some suggestion in his evidence that the Hong Kong authorities nurtured a residual concern at one stage that some of the applicants might not have been settled, even though the Mainland authorities were prepared to take them back. But this concern was laid to rest by the meeting of March 1995. The Mainland side was satisfied that all had been settled. If they could not, upon their return, verify some, then they would resettle them any way. But the only reason the Mainland authorities would do that was because they were satisfied that the individuals in question had originally been settled. There was, he emphasized, no reason that he could see for the Chinese authorities to wish or agree to resettle anyone who had not been registered originally. The Hong Kong authorities had by March 1995 no reason to disbelieve their Mainland counterparts. It is true that he had said in correspondence in dealing with the few double-backers in 1996 - correspondence with the solicitors acting for those double-backers - that they had been properly settled. But that is what he then believed, and he had probably checked the records before writing those letters. His understanding at that stage was that the double-backers had been verified.

CONTEXT

25. It is, as with so much in this case, vital to examine the applicants' contentions and complaints in their proper context. The 1995 affirmations of Mr Choy are, in my view, clearly doing little more in those passages to which Mr Dykes has taken me, than to place the history and background of those then called ECVIIs before the courts. Indeed some of the earlier paragraphs in the August 1995 affirmation about which so much is said are paragraphs under the heading "Background". When Mr Choy says those persons were "resettled in hundreds on farms", he is referring in general to the thousands who had crossed into China from Vietnam in 1978 and 1979. "Having settled in China, they were given household registration, jobs on the farms and school places for the children" is a reference back to ethnic Chinese "who were properly resettled in China as refugees". Where he said in 1995 : "All the applicants have got through the examination and were found to be ECVIIs," - another passage used in support of this suggestion of predetermination - he was not then suggesting that each has been screened by the Hong Kong authorities in order to determine whether each had had household registration on the Mainland. Rather, in true context, it is referable to a broad earlier description of a process by which arrivals were categorized either as those who had come directly from Vietnam; or those who were Chinese illegal immigrants posing as ex-Vietnam migrants; or, finally, those who had fled from Vietnam and remained on the Mainland for some years before coming to Hong Kong : and if one only looks back to earlier parts of the affirmation, it ought to be evident that that is the point of the 'examination' to which he makes reference.

26. The fact is that the questions before the Privy Council and the lower courts were questions different from the issues that the Director was required to address as a result of the Privy Council decision. The issues before the courts in Nguyen Tuan Cuong were whether the applicants had in effect applied to remain as refugees; whether in other words, that part of the Ordinance that dealt with the right of claimants to Vietnamese refugee status had been engaged; and, if so, whether, given the failure by the Director to screen or given his refusal to permit them to remain as refugees, the court should grant them relief, particularly in the light of the unequivocal offer of the Mainland authorities to settle all the applicants on the Mainland. 23,000 who had been to Hong Kong had thus far been verified. By the time Mr Choy had made the affirmation of August 1995, the Mainland authorities had represented that all had been settled. But that had not been an exercise conducted by Mr Choy. There had in fact been no individual screening exercise to determine the issues raised by Sir John May's "first issue" passage. Such examination of household registration questions as had been conducted had been conducted by the Mainland authorities and not by the Director. Mr Choy adds that he had then had no reason to doubt the conclusions that had been reached, even though he was aware that some had not been verified.

27. And it is simply not accurate to assert that the immigration authorities in Hong Kong, including Mr Choy, assumed willy-nilly that all those who came from the Mainland and had previously fled there from Vietnam had been settled on the Mainland. There is correspondence before me which evidences recognition by the Hong Kong authorities as far back as 1992 that only those who had been settled on the Mainland would be taken back, and clearly implicit in that correspondence is recognition that some might not have been settled. But it is said by Mr Dykes that Mr Choy's signature is not on that correspondence; that it is the correspondence of some other official. Assuming against the respondent that that correspondence, even though part of the history of the case, had not come to Mr Choy's attention, I note that in an affirmation by him of 14 December 1994, he referred to the cases of a number of "ECVIIs" in respect of whom numerous submissions had been made to seek their re-entry into the Mainland but to no avail. He there said that in November 1994, Mainland officials had come to conduct interviews of all ECVIIs in Hong Kong and that those very applicants to whom that affirmation refers had been interviewed but that "the Chinese side has officially confirmed that they would not accept them back since they had never been resettled in China". They were then released. In the same affirmation he referred to others who were shown to have been held in the Fang Cheng Closed Camp (a camp for ethnic Vietnamese whom the Chinese would not accept for settlement) and were therefore not to be sent back. All these people were subsequently settled in the United Kingdom. Other Fang Cheng cases were allowed to stay in Hong Kong or were sent abroad. This evidence gainsays the argument that Mr Choy was never prepared to accept that people arrived in Hong Kong who had not been settled on the Mainland.

THE WEIGHT OF THE EVIDENCE

28. Allied to the suggestion that Mr Choy had shown a strong propensity to disbelieve the applicants, and had made broad sweeping statements suggesting that people in the applicants' position had been settled, is a complaint that he failed to find even one single claim made out. This is all part of the complaint of an illegitimate predisposition. These are statements and assertions easy to make in a vacuum. But the exercise upon which Mr Choy was engaged was not an exercise conducted in a vacuum. The truth of the matter is that there was before Mr Choy a wealth of evidence from a number of cogent sources which made the claims of the applicants very difficult for them to prove. That wealth of evidence could not be ignored by Mr Choy, or for that matter by anyone else.

29. The order of the Privy Council that the Director should carry out an examination of individual claims did nothing to alter the facts on the ground. It did not mean that the Privy Council decided that there had been some finding of fact by or on behalf of the Director that was fundamentally flawed; that some vista had been opened which revealed that ethnic Chinese from Vietnam had not in fact been settled. There was nothing in any of the judgments to suggest that the evidence of the UNHCR about the settlement of ethnic Chinese from Vietnam in the years immediately following the war with Vietnam was erroneous.

30. Now, if the truth of the matter is that the chances of any people falling through the cracks of a system in place on the Mainland in 1979 and during the six or so years that followed, were remote or most exceptional, then the order made by the Privy Council does not alter that truth. The order did not and could not purport to require Mr Choy or anybody else to change the evidence to suit the Privy Council order, or to suit individual hopes raised by that decision. The Director was required to carry out an intellectually honest exercise to determine on the evidence whether in any individual case and, despite the firm general conclusion to which he had come, a person had, after arrival on the Mainland from Vietnam, never been settled, and had therefore a good excuse to reject the offer of (re)settlement now made.

31. At the time of the exercise - the Nguyen Tuan Cuong screening exercise (as it has been called in this hearing) - which started in 1997, Mr Choy was already possessed of a great deal of evidence from a number of sources, including sources that could fairly be regarded as independent - for example, the UNHCR - that pointed very strongly against the notion that ethnic Chinese could, or would wish to, slip the net of, and the benefits that came with, registration, and that they could remain on the Mainland for years on end, particularly in the period 1979 to about 1984, without ever having obtained household registration. And that was the key question - not whether having obtained such registration, an applicant then went to some other place on the Mainland where he or she had none. And if the evidence pointed ever so strongly against the notion that ethnic Chinese could have fallen through the net, then that was the background against which he was entitled, indeed duty bound, to examine the case. There was in the Privy Council and in the court at first instance no determination of the strength of this evidence, and no reason at all why the strength of the evidence should be discarded or ignored.

32. Mr Choy's own evidence to this court about the rigidity of the system on the Mainland in the years during and after the Cultural Revolution was compelling. The system by which farms were operated communally was a system that lasted until 1984 or 1985. That system meant that the sale of agricultural goods, oil, vegetables, rice and other essential commodities were controlled by the government, as were schools and clinics; and access to train and bus and ferry tickets was also through registration. It was, in short, well-nigh impossible during a six or seven year period from 1978 for people to get by, to manage at all, without registration. Even if one went to a market for vegetables, one had to produce an official ticket. True, he said, there may have been corruption, but that was expensive. What is more, Mr Choy had difficulty in seeing a reason why people would wish to slip this net. Those who were to be settled overseas were ethnic Vietnamese - for them, there were camps such as the camps in Fang Cheng and Nanning. As for ethnic Chinese, they were either picked up upon entry into China from Vietnam, or else themselves reported or volunteered for registration. That was the general picture. He spoke, too, of the general policy of the Mainland authorities between 1978 and the mid-1980s to accept all ethnic Chinese who entered China from Vietnam. So, who might have fallen through the cracks? Mr Choy thought that a person who entered the Mainland later than the six or seven year period in question in which the rigid system was enforced, might have fallen through the cracks because the system thereafter became less strict. Similarly, someone who was shown to be a Fang Cheng refugee would not be someone who had been registered. Or there was the less likely possibility that someone had stayed in some remote area without having to travel, or to attend school.

33. The evidence in support of Mr Choy's assessment, his general assessment, is very strong. Having looked at other material, I do not for a moment think that it has been unfairly coloured by him. He had evidence from the Mainland authorities; from the UNHCR; from the record of a meeting of the Australian Senate in which the views of the Australian government and of the UNHCR were expressed; the experience of his own visits to farms in four provinces on the Mainland; the visits of Mainland officials to Hong Kong and their assessments; evidence as to the considerable resources that had been injected by the Mainland authorities into the absorption of ethnic Chinese from Vietnam; evidence about the attitude of the Mainland authorities at the time to absorption of ethnic Chinese, not only from Vietnam but from other areas of Southeast Asia too; literature that he had read; and his knowledge of conditions on the Mainland during the Cultural Revolution and in the years that immediately followed that era.

34. The objective evidence suggests that the Mainland authorities took their Convention responsibilities very seriously and that there was a vast pre-existing machinery for the absorption of Indo-Chinese refugees, run to a significant extent by those who had themselves been refugees, monitored by the UNHCR, and in respect of which considerable sums had been expended. So too it seems accepted, and the history would suggest, that the Mainland authorities would not want those who had not been registered. The suggestion that there may have been those who had fallen through the cracks came from the evidence of the Australian Deputy Secretary of Immigration, Mr Richardson, before the Australian Senate, when he said that "working from first principles it is possible for some people arriving at that time [late 1970s, early 1980s] to have fallen through the cracks ...," adding, as I read it, a suggestion that even that was "extremely unlikely".

35. In so far as it is suggested that Mr Choy's acceptance of assurances by Mainland authorities and of favourable literature was slavish, or naive, it is pertinent to note the assessment of the UNHCR as explained in 1995 to the Australian Senate by Mr Fontaine of the UNHCR :

"UNHCR has been present in China, has been involved in the programme in China since 1980 and we have had an office in China since 1981. ... The Chinese government has put in place a fairly substantial programme and administrative structure for the purpose of integrating these people into China. This programme is one which involves a vast allocation of resources by the Chinese government to help integrate these people into China."

Mr Fontaine spoke of the fact that there was already in place, before the 1979-80 influx, machinery to cope with the arrival of these people from Vietnam, machinery which had been put in place to receive overseas Chinese who were fleeing from other countries in Southeast Asia to China :

"This is very significant because it explains in part the care with which the Chinese have approached this caseload. It makes it possible to understand why the members of this group had been treated in a way which some people might consider exceptional, in the light of the information which is generally available about China.

Another aspect of this is that many of the officials who run this programme of integration of these Vietnamese refugees are themselves people who are overseas Chinese refugees who fled to China from Southeast Asia. The most outstanding example is Guangdong Province where, from the level of the director of the programme to the lower level, you find that the Indonesian Chinese are key people in managing this programme. That explains a lot of things they do, in terms of trying to make the life of these people as acceptable as possible, which would be difficult for others to understand, in the light of the information about China."

36. He spoke of the vast administrative structure that existed to deal with these people, and that he himself criss-crossed China to monitor implementation of UNHCR financed projects and "to ensure that protection of these people was properly carried out." He did that between October 1990 and December 1992 :

"What I can say and what the UNHCR knows is that we do not as a group have any information that would lead to the conclusion that as a group these people have protection problems in China of great significance. ... The Chinese have lived up to their responsibilities under the convention. ... I guarantee you that they take [the convention] very seriously with respect to this caseload of Indo-Chinese refugees."

He addressed the question of those who had gone to third countries in recent times, for example, to Japan, and who had been returned, and that he had visited farms to which these people had then been returned and he had no complaints from them. On the question of registration :

"... we can start with the assumption that the overwhelming majority of this caseload were registered at some point."

37. That was the background against which Mr Choy was operating. That was the evidence he already had. He said that despite the views he held about the generality of the matter, based on that evidence, and despite the result of the exercise which the Chinese authorities conducted in Hong Kong in November 1994 and the views that they had then reached, there was, as a result of the Privy Council decision, now a different and new task upon which the Hong Kong authorities had not hitherto specifically directed themselves. This was whether, despite the strength of that evidence, some may nonetheless have slipped the net - whether some may have stayed so close to the border, for example, that they were never registered; why they would not have sought registration despite the many obvious advantages of doing so; whether some had come to Hong Kong before they had had time to register; whether some had travelled to a remote region; or whether some were not ethnic Chinese at all, and for that reason not been registered.

38. The protestations by Mr Choy that he was open-minded in the exercise that he conducted are protestations that are of little avail - not because I think that he believes other than that he was fair, but because bias may often be an unconscious syndrome to which even the most conscientious can fall prey. The question is whether it has been shown that Mr Choy, consciously or unconsciously, closed his mind to the possibility that some applicants had indeed reasonable cause not to accept the offer of resettlement on the Mainland. Was the approach to decision-making fair? Was he intellectually honest or had he in fact already decided that the applicants could not or would not succeed? If the latter, then it matters not whether analysis by Mr Marshall or by Mr Choy or by anyone else can now demonstrate that there was evidence to justify a decision in this case or that.

39. Against the background I have explained, I do not think that anything sinister can be drawn from the fact that Mr Choy did not find any one claim made out. Nor do I think it correct to assert that he relied exclusively on his own understanding of what conditions were like; and in so far as he relied on what he himself and other officers had ascertained from visits to the provinces, he was entitled to do so. The sweeping statements he made in affirmations for the 1995 proceedings were made in a particular context that I have explained, and do not show that he was in the present exercise shutting his mind to any question of someone slipping the registration net.

BIAS AND PREDISPOSITION : THE LAW

40. In so far as Mr Dykes' submissions appeared to be based on the footing that there were circumstances here that gave rise to the appearance of bias, the phrase "appearance of bias" is only appropriate to distinguish actual bias from a real risk of bias. The principles which the courts in Hong Kong now follow are those established by R. v. Gough [1993] AC 646; as explained in R. v. Inner West London Coroner, ex p Dallaglio & Another [1994] 4 AER 139; and in Locabail (UK) Limited v. Bayfield Properties Limited and Another [2000] 1 AER 65. The cases show that in judicial or quasi judicial proceedings, bias is presumed where the decision-maker is shown to have a direct interest in the outcome of a case. In such cases, disqualification is automatic. Cases of actual or presumed bias aside, the courts are concerned with cases in which there is said to be a real danger or likelihood of bias - likelihood, in the sense of a real possibility, rather than probability of bias. "... Having ascertained the relevant circumstances the court should ask itself whether, having regard to those circumstances, there was a real danger of bias on the part of the relevant member of the tribunal in question, in the sense that he might unfairly regard (or have unfairly regarded) with favour or disfavour the case of a party to the issue under consideration." (per Lord Goff in Gough [1993] AC 646, 670). It is unnecessary in these cases for the court specifically to ask how matters would have appeared to the reasonable bystander, because the court is expected to personify the reasonably well informed member of the public. And the court in Locabail added that it was "dangerous and futile to attempt to define or list the factors which may or may not give rise to a real danger of bias. Everything will depend on the facts, which may include the nature of the issue to be decided".

41. Mr Dykes suggested, and I think rightly, that these principles apply not merely to judicial proceedings or those acting as judicial or quasi judicial adjudicators, but to the decisions of administrative bodies as well. That proposition is supported by the judgment of Sedley J in R. v. Secretary of State for the Environment, ex p Kirkstall Valley Campaign Limited [1996] 3 All ER 304, 323 :

"Not only is there ... no authority which limits the Gough principle to judicial or quasi judicial proceedings; there are sound grounds of principle in modern public law for declining so to limit it. The concrete reason, which is not always given the attention it deserves, is that in a modern state the interest of individuals or of the public may be more radically affected by administrative decisions than by the decisions of courts of law and judicial tribunals."

42. It is to that case, too, that Mr Dykes points for its reference to predetermination, for the important principle that : "... the decision of a body ... will be struck down if its outcome has been predetermined whether by the adoption of an inflexible policy or by the effect of surrender of the body's independent judgment." (see page 321).

43. These principles of law are, I think, as between the advocates before me, common ground. But there are two points, crucial to the present case, that need stating :

1. Rules of fairness are not rigid, divorced from the circumstances of a case or from the nature of the decision-making body or the context in which the decision is made. The statements of law in Gough are statements of law and principle designed in the context of judicial decision-making, and whilst the essential principles apply outside decision-making by judges and magistrates and arbitrators and extend to administrative decision-making, nonetheless "what amounts to bias is not a fixed quantity but a function of the procedure under scrutiny and the events occurring in the course of it." (see Sedley J in R. v. Manchester Metropolitan University, ex p Nolan, unreported, 14 July 1993). The same point has been made in R. v. Avon County Council, ex p Crabtree [1996] FLR 502, in which Neill LJ emphasized that the rules of natural justice "must alter according to the context".

2. Sedley J refers to predetermination as objectionable, as does Isaac J in Dickason v. Edwards [1910] 10 CLR 243, 260, upon which Mr Dykes relied. But there is, in my judgment, a cardinal difference between predetermination or illegitimate predisposition, on the one hand and, on the other, legitimate predisposition. The words 'predetermination' and 'predisposition' have in the present case been used freely and interchangeably. They should not have been. Care must be taken before attributing to the idea of predisposition a uniformly pejorative air. There are circumstances where a decision-making body possessed of thorough experience and background knowledge relevant to a task at hand may well be disposed to a view or a certain decision before it hears objections or representations from an interested party . But so long as it acts fairly and assesses the representations fairly, the fact that it was possessed of copious relevant information disposing it to a certain view and was skeptical about the representations which it knew it was about to receive, does not disqualify that body from taking a decision, even though one might say that there was a predisposition towards a certain decision (see, for example, R. v. Amber Valley District Council, ex p Jackson [1985] 1 WLR 298). If one were still actively looking through the eyes of the bystander and suggested that in such a situation someone other than the body with that experience and knowledge should take the decision, that bystander would, I think, say that that was an unrealistic, wasteful and artificial approach. "In considering the fairness of a decision, a court must look carefully at the administrative structure of the body that makes the decision and at the nature of the decision itself. Most decisions taken by administrative bodies have to be taken by those with knowledge of the facts. The members comprising such bodies may, because of previous knowledge of some policy, have a predisposition towards a certain result. That does not mean, however, that such a body cannot reach a fair decision. Furthermore, the courts must be careful not to treat the decision-making process of such bodies as though the bodies were judicial tribunals." (per Neill LJ in Crabtree).

44. The key point is whether the predisposition is connected or unconnected with the merits. That is the point made by Simon Brown LJ in his analysis of Gough in the case of Dallaglio, at page 151 :

"Injustice will have occurred as a result of bias if 'the decision-maker unfairly regarded with disfavour the case of a party to the issue under consideration by him'. I take unfairly regarded with disfavour to mean was predisposed or prejudiced against one party's case for reasons unconnected with the merits of the issue." (Emphasis added)

And if a decision-maker has spent months or years in familiarizing himself with country condition evidence, with the history of a group of people and their fate at the hands of a particular government, then if he forms a view - even a strong view - about the circumstances in which those people have lived, have moved about a country, have been treated; about the likelihood of refoulement of those persons given the circumstances in which they arrived in that country, the ethnic group to which they belonged, the money and machinery deployed to settle them, the views of an international and independent monitoring body such as the UNHCR - or matters of that kind; then the views with which he comes to the problem and to the representations of an individual claimant, are not views that are divorced from the merits. They are based on acceptable evidence, and so long as he nonetheless genuinely attends to that which individuals have to say, whether it be to persuade him that he is wrong about a particular conclusion, or that the conclusion which he had previously reached does not apply to that individual, then he is not acting unfairly.

THE PRESENT CASE

45. And that, I believe, is the position in this case : that there was a predisposition to a view that those in the position of the applicants had been settled, and that was because of the weight of the evidence that Mr Choy had accumulated over a period of years. Yet that is not to say that the predisposition was illegitimate, or that he could not in individual cases reach a fair decision; and it is not to say that he predetermined their individual cases. I note also that considerable resources went into the screening exercise. There was training for it. I have seen notes taken by individual immigration officers. I have heard Mr Choy's detailed analysis of some of the cases in which he came to a decision. I am satisfied that this was not a charade, but merely that the evidence was weighted against the applicants, but not for any sinister or improper reason.

OTHER PARTICULARS

46. In arriving at my conclusion on the question of bias and predetermination, I have addressed the other particulars of complaint set out in paragraph 53 of the notice of application :

(1) Choice of decision maker

47. It is said that Mr Choy made the decisions when there was no need for him to do so. Allied to this complaint is the suggestion that he, Mr Choy, had "been intimately involved over the past few years in defending the merits of an unlawful policy" treating the applicants as if they were illegal immigrants; this primarily being a reference to his stance in the Nguyen Tuan Cuong court proceedings.

48. The fact that a decision-maker acting in good faith takes a decision that is subsequently held by a court to have been an incorrect decision does not of itself disqualify that decision-maker from starting afresh and applying the law correctly. Such a decision is lawful unless and until it is set aside by a court of competent jurisdiction (see R. v. Secretary of State for the Home Department, Ex p Cheblak [1991] 1 WLR 890, 894).

49. There is also implicit in this complaint, as framed, a contention that Mr Choy chose to pursue a policy which he knew to be unlawful. The applicants do not begin to show that. It is apparent in a case of this nature that Mr Choy, in the Nguyen Tuan Cuong case, was in material respects acting upon legal advice. He took the view that the applicants were not entitled to screening and might be treated as illegal immigrants, but he was held to be wrong as a matter of construction of the statute. It hardly follows that he had deliberately chosen a course that he knew to be unlawful.

50. There was no order made that someone else take over the decision-making process for the new question which arose by reason of the Privy Council's judgment, and which then had to be addressed by the Director. There was no suggestion by the applicants at any stage of the Nguyen Tuan Cuong proceedings, that Mr Choy should not be involved in the new process; and indeed no such suggestion thereafter, even once it became clear that he was in the middle of decision-making. If the applicants' solicitors did not know beyond peradventure that Mr Choy was to be the decision-maker, they must have known that that was a real possibility. There is no merit in this complaint. It is said that someone other than Mr Choy could have made the decisions in the 1997 exercise. There was, in my judgment, no need for anyone other than Mr Choy to be the decision-maker. Indeed any other course was quite impractical. He was the man with intimate knowledge of this case, and on the evidence I have heard, and which I accept, no other person of suitable rank had that background. It would have added considerable resource and training problems to appoint some other senior officer to take charge.

(2) The habeas corpus proceedings complaint

51. Here the complaint is that in the middle of the 1997 decision-making process, Mr Choy made an affirmation which demonstrated that he had closed his mind against decisions favourable to any applicant.

52. Following the decision of the Privy Council, the Director had re-detained the applicants under section 13 of the Immigration Ordinance, pending screening. In June 1997, there was issued an application for a writ of habeas corpus. The allegation was that the Hong Kong Government had unlawfully prolonged the detention of the applicants. On 14 July 1997, Keith J, as he then was, ordered a number of the applications to be heard on 11 August 1997, and for the purpose of the applications Mr Choy made an affirmation. It is dated 4 August 1997.

53. There are many passages in that affirmation of the same sweeping nature as those in the affirmation of 1995 to which I have already referred. Not only of the same sweeping nature, but exact repeats of many of the 1995 assertions; for example, that "according to the statements of the Chinese about 285,000 ethnic Chinese Vietnamese were properly resettled in China as refugees"; that the normal screening procedure for Vietnamese migrants was "not designed for persons such as the applicants who have already been offered protection by China," and so on.

54. In an affirmation of 30 December 1999, Mr Choy explains the background to the filing of the August 1997 affirmation : that the evidence had to be filed in a great rush; that that coincided with a busy time when the decision-making process in the screening exercise was in its final stages, and when there was a new team of legal advisers acting for the Director; and, he says, it was, in the circumstances, agreed that there would be drafted a general background affirmation setting out all relevant general matters explaining the context in which the detention orders had been made, and that there were to be a further seven affirmations by Mr Choy dealing with a number of individual applicants; all running, with exhibits, to some 300 pages. It was decided to re-use material affirmed by Mr Choy in the Nguyen Tuan Cuong case. He says - and the truth of what he says should be obvious to anyone who reads the 1995 affirmations - that many of the paragraphs in the 1997 habeas corpus affirmation are word for word the same as paragraphs in the 1995 affirmation. In his oral evidence Mr Choy explained that the affirmation of August 1997 was a "cut and paste job", much of which was put together by an assistant at a time when he, Mr Choy, had much else to do.

55. In my judgment, the habeas corpus affirmation point is a non-point. I say that for a number of reasons. The argument is that the affirmation shows that Mr Choy had, at the time when he was still considering individual cases and purporting to decide whether people had 'fallen through the cracks', already determined that there were no people who had fallen through those cracks. But the paragraphs upon which Mr Dykes relies do not address the 1997 screening exercise. They do no more than state the view which he had taken generally before that exercise. It does not differ from the view he now expresses or the view he held at the time of the exercise, namely, that it was most unlikely indeed for anyone to have fallen through the cracks. It is quite clear that the affirmation was indeed a "cut and paste job", taking vast chunks from the 1995 affirmation, and cobelled together for a habeas corpus application brought before the court in haste in the early summer of 1997.

56. In so far as it is open to Mr Dykes to argue that the passages in the 1995 affirmation showed a mindset, the repetition of these passages in 1997 do not add anything to the case of the applicants, for it is self-evident that this was not, in 1997, an unqualified statement of present belief. That that is so is clear from paragraphs 57 onwards of the August 1997 affirmation, since there is much there which informs the court that there had, since the Privy Council decision, taken place an extensive screening exercise, which had required training, and for which there was gathered country condition information, and that interviews had been conducted precisely in order to ascertain whether the applicants interviewed had been accepted as refugees and accorded treatment normally available in resettlement countries, and whether they had relatives overseas. Of course if one were to take in isolation those parts of the affirmation which state as a fact that all the 'ECVIIs' had been resettled, one might well be startled by such bland assertions in the middle of a screening exercise. But to take those passages in isolation is to be unfair to the truth and to the witness. Whilst Mr Choy was, in the course of oral evidence, ready to admit that these passages were in error, I rather think that, had he had time to digest the whole - and there was much to digest - he would not have been so quick with that admission.

(3) The letter of 21 May 1997

57. This particular complaint was that in May 1997 when screening was already underway and before decisions had been made, Mr Choy had written to the applicants' solicitors, saying that he hoped that the applicants would not take hasty and ill-advised judicial review proceedings. This is said to indicate that he was already then minded to make adverse decisions.

58. This allegation, like others, is entitled to assessment in proper context. The letter of 21 May 1997 was a letter in reply to one from the applicants' solicitors dated 19 May 1997. That letter made a number of complaints and then said :

"Should any of the decisions of the your department be negative, our clients are entitled to a review by the RSRB. The department's decisions must be issued forthwith in order for that review to take place."

A copy was sent to counsel for the respondent as well as to Mr Choy. (Why to Mr Choy if, as was suggested in argument, those representing the applicants did not appreciate that he would be the decision-maker, or involved in the decision-making process, it is difficult to say.) What the response said was that :

"We hope that you and your clients will not take hasty and ill-advised judicial review proceedings as a matter of mindset, but it is of course your clients' privilege to apply to the court for leave for judicial review."

That was a letter written, according to Mr Choy, on legal advice. I accept what he says. Quite what it meant is not easy to determine, but I do not think that this court would be justified in reading into it predetermination by the Director of the issues he was to address in the 1997 screening exercise.

(4) The approach to the Consulates

59. Here the point is that the Security Branch of the Hong Kong Government approached consulates to put before them the question of possible resettlement of the applicants and yet did so at a time when decisions had not been made; when the cases had not all been considered by Mr Choy and that, unlike past practice, no use was made by the Hong Kong Government of the good offices of the UNHCR in this approach to these consulates. There was no chance, says Mr Dykes, that before any applicant had been shown not to have been settled on the Mainland, any consulate would agree to resettle him. The cart was placed before the horse. The approach to the consulates was part, in other words, of an elaborate charade. Furthermore, the letter sent to the consulates, which was disclosed by the respondent in the course of this hearing, was, Mr Dykes says, a gloomy letter which, by its terms and tenor, weighed against any prospect of acceptance of the applicants by any prospective resettlement country.

60. The letter to one of the consulates which I have seen, and which I gather is in the same terms as that sent to the other consulates, is dated 1 May 1997, signed by Ms Sally Wong of the Security Branch (as it was then known). "I am writing," she begins, "to explore the possibility of your country accepting any of the ex-China Vietnamese listed in the annex for resettlement in your country." She goes on to explain the background to the request, speaking in general terms about ECVIIs, who were recognized by China and given protection there. She explains that the former policy of not according to ECVIIs the same treatment as asylum seekers from Vietnam was challenged in the courts and that a judgment was handed down in favour of the applicants in November 1996. She points out that the applicants had claimed that they had been denied basic rights in China. A screening exercise had been started in accordance with the judgment of the Privy Council in which the Director was "to examine whether the ECVII was recognized as a refugee in China. The Director ... will then assess if the ECVII was afforded reasonable protection and whether he will be protected upon return there". In parallel, she (the Director) will assess whether the ECVII is accepted by any other country for resettlement. If the ECVII is found to have been given reasonable protection in China and there is no offer of resettlement from another country, he will be removed to China. "In the process of screening the Director ... has obtained information on individual ECVII's overseas connection and preferred country of resettlement. Persons on the attached list have indicated that they wish to settle in your country. I should be grateful if you could look at the list to see if any of those ECVIIs would be considered for resettlement."

61. The decision to send this letter at the time that it was sent caused me concern, before I heard the evidence of Mr Choy, but, on balance, I do not think that the criticism levelled against its timing holds water. Neither the timing, nor the terms of, the letter are such as to persuade me that it evidences predetermination of the cases of individual applicants.

62. Mr Choy's oral evidence was that these consulates were experts in these matters. The consulates that represented resettlement countries were well aware of these cases. The letter was not drafted by Mr Choy but he saw it and was given the opportunity to comment on the draft, although he did not do so. There was absolutely no point in going to the UNHCR for assistance in the resettlement of the applicants for their view was one that they had long espoused, namely, that the applicants were in fact refugees who had been recognized and settled on the Mainland. The first decisions, which are the subject of this application for judicial review, were sent out to the solicitors for the applicants at the end of June. Mr Choy says that by 1 May he had, he thinks, made a small number of the decisions but held his hand in conveying them until the letter to the consulates was sent out. He had been consulted about the letter. He says that it was recognized that if and once an applicant had been screened out - in other words, had been told that he had been given adequate protection on the Mainland - the chance of another country accepting that applicant was gone. It was not entirely futile to approach countries prematurely, as it were, because previous experience suggested that occasionally, as a matter of mere goodwill, countries accepted a number of those seeking resettlement even though, for example, court cases were still in train. And if, after these letters were sent, it had been decided in any particular case that an applicant had not been given protection on the Mainland, then an approach could be made afresh with the benefit of that added and important information. In short : if after investigation it were found that an applicant seeking resettlement had in fact been settled on the Mainland, the chance, slim though it might have been, of a resettlement country then accepting the applicant became even slimmer; if, on the other hand, an applicant was found not to be settled, then he could stay in Hong Kong, and avenues for settlement overseas could be explored afresh.

63. I take the view that this was not an unreasonable stance, and it is not shown that the approach to the consulates at this stage demonstrated some charade or predetermination. In so far as it has the hallmarks of an exercise scant with signs of hope, that is a produce of the real position of the applicants and their history. Generally speaking, their chances of resettlement, as was recognised by the courts in the 1995 litigation, was slim indeed.

(5) Nomenclature

64. The complaint in paragraph (11) of paragraph 53 of the Notice of Application is that Mr Choy has, throughout these proceedings, referred to the applicants as "ECVIIs", illustrative, it is said, of a negative mindset; for the point is that they are not illegal immigrants; their status is that of refugees, and before the summer of 1997, claimants for refugee status. I agree that it would have been more appropriate to refer to the applicants as claimants or, after the determinations in the summer of 1997, as refugees; but I hardly think that this evidences predetermination on Mr Choy's part. He explains that this terminology, used more latterly, was merely a convenient continuation of earlier labelling; and I accept that.

(6) Paragraphs 53(12) and 53(7)

65. The complaint in paragraph (12) of paragraph 53 that the Director of Immigration adopted deliberately a procedure designed to deprive the applicants of review by the Refugees Status Review Board is not one pursued by Mr Dykes at the second stage hearing, but he takes that course only because of the conclusions as to law reached by this court at stage one of this application. No doubt he reserves the right to argue elsewhere that those conclusions were wrong.

66. So, too, the complaint in the first sentence of paragraph 53(7), that Mr Choy never interviewed the applicants, is a complaint not pursued at this second stage.

(7) Suggested admissions by immigration officers

67. What remains under the allegation of bias and predetermination is that part of paragraph 53(7) of the notice of application that asserts that several officers "admitted that the interview with the applicant was a formality, and that the decision had already been made to send the applicant to the Mainland". To decide this issue, I heard the oral evidence of three applicants and three immigration officers.

(i) Ms Lai Yen

68. I have heard the evidence of Ms Lai Yen and in response, that of Mr Ip, the immigration officer who interviewed her. Ms Lai is aged only 24 and is a quietly-spoken young lady. She was interviewed by Mr Ip for three and a half days. Her testimony related to events some two and a half years ago, and one could not expect her - or Mr Ip for that matter - to recall fine detail. In some instances she was asked in cross-examination about affirmations she had made in 1997 and was unable to be clear about certain aspects, but I do not hold that against her because that was also a long time ago and because she did not come specifically prepared to answer questions about such affirmations.

69. Her evidence was that in the course of the screening exercise, Mr Ip said to her that whether or not she was screened out, she had to return to China;.she had been sent back once before and could be sent back on this occasion.

70. The allegation which she makes is not one upon which I am prepared to act. I find that it is not established. There are features of the history of this case which sit ill with her contention, and features of her evidence which did not ring true. In particular, I have seen the very detailed record of interviews taken by Mr Ip and heard his own testimony. It is acknowledged that he interviewed this lady for over three days. It seems unlikely that this officer would spend three days interviewing her and making notes carefully recorded, only to suggest to her that it was all a charade. But more particularly, had he said that which he is alleged to have said, it was bound to have struck her then and there as a most devastating thing to say, the meaning of which for her could not possibly have escaped her understanding. Yet she concedes that she then told no one about it, neither her colleagues at the detention centre where she was held, nor the lawyers who were already then acting for her and had been her lawyers for several years in relation to her fight to avoid precisely that which the officer said she could simply not avoid, namely, return to the Mainland. She explains the silence which she maintained with her friends, by saying that it was her own personal matter. As for her solicitors, she says she did not tell them because the importance of what had been said did not occur to her until much later. Her allegation is one that does not appear in affirmations made that August or September by her, and she only volunteered the information, she says, after someone else had made a like allegation to the solicitors at a meeting in December, when the solicitors asked for details about the interview. I have also had the advantage of hearing the evidence of Mr Ip. I am satisfied that he did not say to her that which she alleges. It may be that Mr Ip explained to her what the interview was all about and what was at stake and that, prompted by comments by a fellow applicant at a meeting in December, she has somewhat distorted in her own mind the effect of what he said. Nor was her evidence altogether satisfactory insofar as she has suggested in evidence that when she was to be interviewed she did not know that she would be asked about her treatment in China; that she did not know what Mr Ip was going to ask her about. In all the circumstances, this is most unlikely.

(ii) Nguyen Tuan Cuong

71. Mr Nguyen was the lead applicant in the case that went to the Privy Council; the case in which the applicants were successful. He had much, it seems to me, to expect from the new screening exercise. He is the applicant who has at all times asserted that he belonged to a special group, namely, those who had been kept at the Fang Cheng Camp in Guangxi. Those kept there were said to be available for resettlement overseas, and it was known that it was not the policy of the Hong Kong Government to send members of that group back to the Mainland. His surprise and outrage therefore, must, if his evidence is true, have been considerable when, as he asserted in his testimony, two officers told him that the screening exercise was a mere formality that had to be observed because he had happened to win the Privy Council case. He said that he was told that by Mr Law who took from him bio-data information and then by Mr Ip who interviewed him over a period for three or so days. He, too, however, made no complaint about the matter at the time or immediately afterwards - not until the same time as the others complained in December 1997. The interviews of Mr Nguyen took place in April 1997, so he kept these matters to himself for some eight months; indeed, not even when the result in fact went against him did he complain. His explanation is that he did not think that what he had been told was a matter of importance. I accept that Mr Nguyen is a man of little education, and I appreciate that he is not legally trained and cannot be expected to grasp the importance of all events in the course of interviews. But I cannot accept that even for a man of such little education, against the history of this case to which he has been a party, at all times represented, that he would not have been fully aware of the magnitude of what it was that, according to him, was being said to him by both these officers. So, too, I find it extraordinary that either officer would say such a thing when at the same time they had taken copious notes of interview, including, in the case of Mr Law, that the applicant said, and wished it to be known, that he wanted to go to the United States of America and that he had relatives there. It makes no sense. Why would they do so?

72. The screening interviews of both Ms Lai and Mr Nguyen were conducted by Mr Ip, a Senior Immigration Officer. He was a very careful witness who gave the impression of being quiet and efficient and conscientious. I was impressed by his evidence. He was, I am satisfied, very careful to be correct, and I am quite sure that his evidence was truthful.

73. I also heard the testimony of Mr Law, who is the officer who took the personal details - the "bio-data" it is called - from Mr Nguyen. He occupied the post of an Immigration Assistant, a post he has held for many years. Mr Law's function in this exercise, indeed, in all exercises of this kind, was very limited. He was not involved in any briefing about the object of the exercise. He was just told to take details from which the first few pages of personal information about date of birth and family membership and standard of education - matters of that kind - could be completed. He then moved on to the next application, and did the same thing. He was a witness quite devoid of any guile in his approach to the evidence; and the manner of it and the role he played, and the rank he holds, persuaded me that he is a truthful man, and was telling the truth on this occasion. It would have been a strange thing for an assistant performing this function to offer such a suggestion to Mr Nguyen, and without anything which was there to prompt such a remark. There was no suggestion of hostility between the two; no suggestion that Mr Law said something of the same kind at all to others from whom he took these details. I have to say, having heard the evidence of Mr Law, as well as the evidence as a whole, that I found the suggestion one that is not only not proved, but is simply not credible.

(iii) Mr Daon Cuu De

74. Mr Daon Cuu De was the third applicant from whom I heard oral evidence, and the effect of his evidence was much the same as that of the others. He was interviewed over a period of about three days and in his case, too, an officer, Mr Chan, is said to have told him on the second day that the screening process was obligatory as a result of the Privy Council decision but that, screening or no screening, there was no difference, for this applicant would have to return to the Mainland as well. He was interviewed in April and he, too, made no complaint to anyone, whether to friends or to fellow applicants or to his lawyers, until December 1997. He says that he was at a meeting then with his solicitor, and he did not hear anyone tell the solicitor about such comments made by immigration officers, but heard that someone had made such an allegation. The lawyer, according to his evidence, asked if such a comment had been made to him, and then he appreciated for the first time that the matter was of importance.

75. It would be odd enough for one applicant to whom such comments had been made to fail, for months on end, to say anything about the charade that was, on these accounts, evidently taking place, and for one applicant to fail to appreciate that the comment was devastating in its import. But for all three who have been giving this testimony to fail to say anything to anyone for about eight months, and for all three not to appreciate that the comment was of any significance, is startling indeed. I have also listened and noted the testimony of Mr Chan who interviewed Mr Daon. And I am satisfied also that his evidence, which denied any such comment about foregone conclusion, was truthful.

76. It may be that the immigration officers or some of them told the applicants what was at stake in the interviews; that the choice was between allowing them to stay and sending them back. And it may be from that that the witnesses, after their disappointment, and with the passage of time, assumed from such comments an implication or hint or tone which suggested that they were at serious risk of failure, and then convinced themselves that something more sinister was in fact said. It may also be that the allegations have been invented. It is not necessary for me to decide which. But it suffices to say that in the event I find that the allegation which is contained in paragraph 53(7) of the Notice of Motion, that officers told the applicants that the result was a foregone conclusion, is an allegation which is not made out.

BIAS AND PREDISPOSITION : CONCLUSION

77. I have considered also the cumulative effect of the allegations of bias and predisposition, but in the result I am satisfied that the claim that the Director of Immigration, through Mr Choy, was biased, or acted in bad faith, or was unacceptably predisposed to disbelieve the applicants, is a claim that is not made out.

II. NO EVIDENCE

78. In the second main limb of Stage Two of this case, it is said that there was no evidence upon which the Director could properly conclude that a durable solution had been provided on the Mainland to the applicants, and in this regard attention has been focussed on the issue of household registration, and upon the suggested treatment of those who have earlier been returned to the Mainland - the double-backers.

79. In support of this ground, Mr Dykes invited me to look at a number of test cases. The respondent said that they were not good test cases, not helpful or representative, and so he chose two others. At an interlocutory hearing in December 1999, I wondered aloud how the test cases would help me, because in the judgment of May 1999, I suggested that the detailed study of the evidence which I had then conducted tended to show that claims in individual cases that an applicant had not been settled appeared to have been determined primarily on the basis of evidence from the Mainland authorities as to what had happened to individuals whose identities had been traced, and by country condition evidence; rather than upon suggested disparities and accounts given by applicants even though that appeared to have played some part.

80. I was told by Mr Dykes, in response, that such are the errors which could be demonstrated by these test cases, that had Mr Choy been aware of them he would have taken a different view of the general evidence upon which he had relied. Unless I was to forage through the mass of material in relation to each applicant to decide which cases merited choice as a test case, I had to rely upon counsel; and therefore the only practical way forward was to accept the applicants' choice of four tests case and to permit, further, two test cases chosen by the respondent. In the event, the respondent selected two cases, but the applicants have conceded that in relation to those two, it cannot be argued that there was no evidence upon which the Director could properly come to the conclusion that each had been provided with a durable solution on the Mainland. I have therefore concentrated on the four cases selected by the applicants.

THE LAW

81. Mr Dykes does not contend that there was no scintilla of evidence capable of supporting Mr Choy's conclusions. Rather, he says, such evidence as there was, was not logically probative. Relying on the Privy Council decision in Mahon v. Air New Zealand [1984] 1 AC 808, he argues that the findings by Mr Choy that the applicants had been provided with a durable solution on the Mainland should have been, but were not, ".. based upon some material that tends logically to show the existence of facts consistent with the finding and that the reason in support of the finding, if it be disclosed, is not logically self-contradictory." (per Lord Diplock at page 821).

82. That phrase in Mahon ("... some material that tends logically to show ... facts consistent with the finding ...") was, it seems, drawn from R. v. Deputy Industrial Injuries Commissioner, Ex parte Moore [1965] 1 QB 456, and it is important to see what, according to that judgment, the phrase means :

"The requirement that a person exercising quasi judicial functions must base his decision on evidence means no more than it must be based upon material which tends logically to show the existence or non-existence of facts relevant to the issue to be determined, or to show the likelihood or unlikelihood of the accounts of some future event, the accounts of which would be relevant. It means that he must not spin a coin or consult an astrologer, but he may take into account any material which, as a matter of reason, has some probative value in the sense mentioned above. If it is capable of having any probative value, the weight to be attached to it is a matter for the person to whom parliament has entrusted the responsibility of deciding the issue. The supervisory jurisdiction of the High Court does not entitle it to usurp this responsibility and to substitute its own view for his." (per Diplock L.J., as he then was, at page 488)

83. Mr Dykes contends that especially in cases in which fundamental rights are at stake, the courts will not defer to the decision-maker simply because he claims to be an expert and will, especially in such cases, subject the findings of fact to anxious scrutiny; for which proposition he relies on R v. Secretary of State for the Home Department, Ex parte Turgut, 28 January 2000 (unreported). That is no doubt so, and no one could reasonably say that Mr Choy's fact finding in this case has been subject, in the course of this hearing, to anything other than microscopic scrutiny. But it is always the case that "the court's role even in a case involving fundamental human rights remains essentially supervisory. ... It must not adopt the role of primary decision-maker." (per Simon Brown L.J. in Turgut); and albeit after such scrutiny as the case may warrant, it remains the position that a finding of fact by a decision-maker to whom has been entrusted that function will not be thrown over unless plainly wrong :

"Where the existence or non-existence of a fact is left to the judgment in discretion of a public body and that fact involves a broad spectral ranging from the obvious to the debatable to the just conceivable, it is the duty of the court to leave the decision of that fact to the public body to whom parliament has entrusted the decision-making power, save in a case where it is obvious that the public body, consciously or unconsciously, are acting perversely."

See R v. Hillingdon London Borough Council, Ex parte Puhlhofer [1986] 1 AC 484, 518.

COUNTRY CONDITION EVIDENCE

84. Mr Dykes first attacks Mr Choy's reliance on country condition evidence. He points to reliance by Mr Choy on literature by a Mr Rewi Alley, and Mr Dykes says that the book by Mr Alley has self-evidently a pro-Chinese Government agenda, and that it paints an unrealistic rural utopia. It is further argued that Mr Choy has relied upon statements by Mainland officials about the treatment of refugees without demonstrating any awareness that they might be self-serving statements.

85. I see no sufficient reason why, at the time Mr Choy took them into account, these sources of evidence should have been discarded by him, nor why they should be treated as having no probative value. But, that aside, they formed but a part of Mr Choy's knowledge of country condition evidence, supported by visits to the Mainland provinces where the resettlement farms were established, and the extensive experience of the UNHCR. I have referred earlier in this judgment to the evidence of the UNHCR before the Australian Senate. It is evidence, couched in firm terms, of the durable solution provided to those ethnic Chinese who fled Vietnam for China, and can hardly be said to lack probative value.

THE FOUR TEST CASES

86. I turn now to the four cases selected by the applicants as cases by which to test this allegation that Mr Choy's findings were based on material bereft of probative value, and were illogical.

(1) Nguyen Tuan Cuong

87. This is an unusual case on its facts. Mr Nguyen claims to have been an inmate of the Fang Cheng Camp in Guangxi. If he was, then he would have belonged to a group of ethnic Vietnamese whom the Chinese authorities had refused to settle. He would in turn have been eligible for resettlement as a refugee from Vietnam. Mr Dykes contends that there was in relation to his case no evidence which, upon a fair appraisal, could logically show that he was settled on the Mainland as Mr Choy suggests.

88. Mr Nguyen came to Hong Kong in April 1991. He was then aged 19 years. He says, in an affirmation filed in the present proceedings, that he left Vietnam in 1980 or 1981 with a family friend, Mr Hoang Boa, who was looking after him after he, Nguyen, was separated from his parents. He and Mr Hoang were blown by a storm on to the Chinese coastline and arrested and then taken to Ninh Minh Refugee Centre. In 1983, Mr Hoang left the Mainland and was resettled in Canada. Mr Nguyen says that he escaped from the Centre in 1983 and was then arrested and detained in prison. After that, he went to Guangdong Province and after failing to find work, went back to the Ninh Minh Centre but since that was closed, he eventually found his way to Fang Cheng. Life there was harsh and so he came to Hong Kong in 1991. He was never settled on the Mainland or registered there.

89. The argument by Mr Dykes has concentrated to a significant extent on the rejection by Mr Choy of this applicant's claim that he was a former resident of the Fang Cheng camp. It was a claim which was supported by four former Fang Cheng residents who arrived in Hong Kong with Mr Nguyen. Yet Mr Choy has rejected this evidence; in particular it is said that Mr Choy did not ask the authorities responsible for maintaining the records for that camp, to check whether this applicant might have been registered under another name, most pertinently the name of Hoang who had, according to Mr Nguyen, in effect, adopted the applicant as part of his family. This question of registration at that camp was, Mr Dykes asserts in his skeleton argument, "the critical issue in Nguyen's case. If it had been confirmed that Nguyen had been an inmate at that camp, then suspicions about the veracity of other facets of Nguyen's story to the authorities would have fallen away." It is said that the failure to verify whether Mr Nguyen was registered under Hoang's name "offends the Mahon requirement of listening to the evidence that conflicts with the finding fairly. ... There was therefore no evidence that entitled [Mr Choy] to draw the conclusion that Nguyen had not been in the camp".

90. In the light of the copious evidence on this issue that I have seen and heard, I find untenable the suggestion that there was no probative evidence to support the conclusion that Nguyen was not a Fang Cheng resident; as I do the suggestion that Mr Choy's overall conclusion about this applicant's prior settlement on the Mainland is one unsupported by probative evidence. And I am satisfied that it was not incumbent on Mr Choy to make inquiries beyond those that were in fact made.

91. There is uncontested evidence that the Hong Kong authorities sent repeated submissions to the Chinese authorities - in 1991, 1992, 1993 and 1994 - for verification of Mr Nguyen's status. In September 1991, the Chinese authorities advised that Mr Nguyen was not an ex-Fang Cheng resident, but that four of his boat mates were; and in April 1994 they again reported that he was not a resident of Fang Cheng camp. In so far as it is said that by not checking whether Mr Nguyen was registered under Mr Hoang's name, Mr Choy was "wilfully turning away from a source of evidence which could easily have proved (or disproved) the truth of Nguyen's story," and that it was merely assumed that the camp records were perfect (and this consequential disbelief of Nguyen's Fang Cheng claim is then, it is said, used to undermine other aspects of Nguyen's story) - the suggestion of some wilful desire to find that Nguyen was not an ex-Fang Cheng resident makes no sense to me. Why, one asks, would Mr Choy not want Mr Nguyen to be an ex-Fang Cheng resident? Others were accepted by the Hong Kong authorities as being ex-Fang Cheng residents, and were simply allowed to remain here for the purpose of resettlement. And the fact is that there were repeated attempts to verify Mr Nguyen's claim. Why would that be done if the authorities were content to ride roughshod over the truth? The Mainland authorities represented in the clearest of terms, and more than once, that their records revealed that Nguyen was not an ex-Fang Cheng resident. As for the accuracy of their records, Mr Choy made no blindly faithful assumption in that regard : he told the court that he had seen the Fang Cheng record himself. What is more, he was satisfied that the records were thoroughly organized and complete and he, Mr Choy, was well acquainted with Mr Zhang, the chief administrator and investigator of these cases in Guangxi. As for the suggestion that he did not check whether Mr Nguyen might have been registered under the name of Hoang, as Hoang's adopted son, Mr Choy replied that he had talked to officials in Guangxi about the possibility of a minor being registered under a foster family and the answer was that that would never been the case. The list at Fang Cheng is known to Mr Choy as being a very comprehensive list, with every name and every detail, regardless of age. And Mr Choy also points to a fact not insignificant in this regard, relevant to the likelihood of Mr Nguyen having been an inmate of a camp designed primarily for ethnic Vietnamese: that Mr Nguyen's mother was ethnic Chinese, and his father half ethnic Chinese, and that Mr Nguyen himself spoke Cantonese. And, further than all of this, the Mainland authorities had agreed to take Mr Nguyen back, and Mr Choy's previous experience showed that the Mainland authorities would simply not consider taking back ex-Fang Cheng residents. He goes on to point out that since Mr Hoang was relocated overseas, that could only be because the Mainland authorities did not recognize him as qualifying for local settlement, which suggests that if Mr Nguyen had been registered at the camp he, too, would have been viewed as eligible for relocation overseas.

92. I fail to see how, in the light of this evidence, it can be suggested with any cogency that the finding that Mr Nguyen was not a Fang Cheng resident can be said to be a finding that is not supportable, either by reason of the evidence or by reason of the approach to the investigative process.

93. It is suggested that Mr Choy has been "picky" in finding disparities in the various statements and affirmations made by Mr Nguyen over the years; and has shown no appreciation of errors or omissions that can be made by officers in the taking of statements. I have to say that the analysis by Mr Choy in his affirmation dated November 1997, of these differences, is an extraordinarily detailed one, so much so that I questioned him whether they were all to mind when he was making his decision. He pointed out that the Nguyen case was a particularly difficult one. He had indeed noted a lot of discrepancies at the time he made his decision; and when preparing his affirmation he had drawn a table and noted the discrepancies and discussed them with counsel. Yet most of them he had found when making his decision, though the affirmation contained some supplemental or additional ones. I accept that there is a difference between a revelation for the court's benefit of the history of claims made by an applicant and drawing the court's attention to disparities in them, on the one hand, and, on the other, an analysis of, and the conclusion reached by, the decision maker at the time of his decision; and I accept that Mr Choy had, for better or for worse, been advised to set out seriatim the thrust of each statement made by Mr Nguyen at the various stages of his claims in Hong Kong, and I note too that there is a different part of the affirmation in which he turns to his findings at the time of his decision and his reasons for them.

94. In the event, whether or not the question of disparities should have been explained with greater clarity, unencumbered by such detail, I am satisfied that Mr Choy's actual approach at the time of his decision making was, in Mr Nguyen's case, neither unfair nor suspect. I do not think that he can justly be accused of not appreciating the realities of interviewing situations. He is a very experienced immigration officer, and he was aware of the relatively junior rank of the officer who took the arrival statement. And it is the fact that in relation to the discrepancies to which he refers in his affirmation of November 1997 he said that though he noted discrepancies : "some may not matter because of his extreme youth in 1979 and 1980", although he thought that some were glaring (and I accept from him that he did notice apparently material discrepancies at the time of his decision). And indeed some discrepancies are glaring, not least the fact that when he first came to Hong Kong Mr Nguyen was not saying that Hoang was someone who took him under his wing in Vietnam and who took him from Vietnam to the Mainland, but rather that he met him for the first time after he, Nguyen, had fled from Vietnam with his father. But what Mr Choy emphasized in his oral testimony was that what he could and did draw from statements made on several occasions by Mr Nguyen were facts which Mr Nguyen had put forward that were not contentious, such as the composition of his family and their ethnicity, and the duration of Mr Nguyen's stay on the Mainland; against which facts he, Mr Choy, could test the claim of non-settlement. There were, he said, many facts of this kind against which Nguyen's claims could be and were tested, in particular by Mr Choy's knowledge of country condition evidence. So, for example, it was a fact, as always asserted by Mr Nguyen, that his mother was ethnic Chinese; and that was highly material in assessing the question of residence as a Fang Cheng camp inmate. So, too, Mr Choy noted that the evidence about the refugee programme on the Mainland at the material times showed that "Nguyen would have been in a priority category for settlement as a young unaccompanied minor. There were very many such cases and the evidence shows they were allocated to farm units and provided with caregivers and schooling." In essence therefore, factors such as these, and the fact that Nguyen was shown not to have been registered as an inmate at Fang Cheng, were key factors in deciding what to believe; and Mr Nguyen's family background, his separation from that family at a young age, the period in time and duration of his sojourn on the Mainland, and Mr Choy's knowledge of policy and country condition evidence, were key factors in deciding what was likely in fact to have happened to Mr Nguyen in those years. In my judgment, this was a valid approach, and these were factors which Mr Choy was entitled to take into account in his assessment whether Mr Nguyen was truthful, and whether he had remained an unabsorbed refugee on the Mainland.

95. In the circumstances which I have described, I am satisfied that there was ample probative evidence upon which Mr Choy could properly conclude that Mr Nguyen had not been a Fang Cheng resident, and upon which he could reject Nguyen's claims of non settlement on the Mainland, and conclude that he had in fact been properly settled there.

(2) Lai Yen

96. Ms Lai Yen was born in 1976. She left Vietnam in 1978. The account she gives to the court in her affirmation is, very broadly, as follows : that she fled Vietnam with her mother in 1979 and lived across the border in China where her mother met a man whom she describes as her step-father. There they applied for registration but were refused because they had not been sent there by the government to settle. In 1984, they were forced to leave and they went to Hainan, where her parents again applied for registration but were refused. The school accordingly did not allow her to attend, save on payment of twice the normal fees but, even so, she was the subject of discrimination. Property they had was confiscated, and then, when her mother, in 1990, fell pregnant, there was pressure for an abortion because of the Mainland's one-child policy. They fled to Beihai. There again they could not obtain registration, and in 1993 their household was demolished, so she fled that year to Hong Kong. In March 1995, she was returned to the Mainland. She was flown to Hainan, but there told that she could not live there because she had no registration, and when she said that she had lived in Beihai before she first went to Hong Kong, she was told to return to Beihai. That is what she did. She could not obtain registration there, so that she could not secure employment save for casual labour, and she was unable to trace her parents. She decided to return to Hong Kong. And that is what she did. It is asserted that the Director could not in these circumstances properly find that she had been granted a durable solution.

97. Mr Choy has attested that he received information from the Mainland that Ms Lai had in fact, and contrary to her claims, been registered at Nandao Farm, Sanya City, Hainan. He finds as a fact that that is where the family was settled as far back as 1978 or 1979 with household registration and with all the consequential benefits of registration. He found that when she was returned in 1995 she chose not to stay there but to go to Beihai where her family lived. He found that it was likely that she received schooling in Hainan until about 1990 when her family chose to go to Beihai. "Since China has verified her residence in Hainan", he says, "her claims in May 1997 to the Director had no credibility and were materially at odds with her own previous claims."

98. Mr Dykes argues that this makes no sense. Here was Mr Choy who had asserted in the Privy Council proceedings that "the Chinese [authorities] have a very comprehensive and accurate record of the residents of the refugee camps in China," and who has further stated that in a straightforward case it took between three to six months to verify particulars of registration; and yet in relation to this young lady, who had given her true name, it took something like two years to verify her residence in Hainan, and that there is no explanation for that lapse of time. What is more, it is said to be illogical to suggest that Ms Lai rejected registration in Hainan when returned there in 1995 in favour of the life of an illegal non-registered person in Beihai, with all the disadvantages that come with that status.

99. Now, when Ms Lai first came to Hong Kong in July 1993 she was then aged 16 or 17 years. She completed her registration form and gave two addresses : one on Nandao Farm, Sanya City, Hainan; the other as "near the market at Qiaobei of Qiaogang Town, Beihai". She there signed a note saying that she left Vietnam in 1978 "to Hainan and I voluntary entered Hong Kong for examination." No names were there provided of relatives : her mother, for example, or her step-father or her step-brothers. In November 1994, she was one of those who were interviewed by Mainland authorities who came to Hong Kong to see whether those not yet verified, could be verified as having settled on the Mainland. It is said that a number were identified at once as having settled previously on the Mainland. We do not have any record of the interview with Ms Lai then conducted. But be that as it may, she was returned to Hainan. The Mainland authorities agreed then to allow the ethnic Chinese (ex-Vietnam) in this group back to the Mainland and to resettle them. In June 1995, 60 of the outstanding number were returned to the Mainland and in July, 22 to Hainan. Ms Lai Yen was one of those 22. All 60, according to the evidence, were subsequently identified as having been settled on the Mainland, some in Guangxi and some in Guangdong.

100. Ms Lai returned to Hong Kong in early April 1996 and she then signed a statement. In it she talks of going straight from Vietnam to Nandao Farm in Hainan after arrival in China. "The head of the brigade was Truong Qui Long and the witness of our settlement was Hua ... ." She describes events thereafter and moving to Beihai in 1991 and how in 1995 she was "repatriated to my place of domicile." In this regard, Mr Choy said in his oral testimony that whilst it is true that she does not there say in terms that she was registered, the reference to being sent to a brigade and the reference to repatriation to her place of domicile is indicative that she was in fact settled there at Nandao Farm. Where later she refers to not having household registration, she has then arrived in Hong Kong from Beihai and it is there, in Beihai, that she had no household registration. He points out also that in her account there are two periods of residence on the Mainland : first, across the border from Vietnam and then later in Hainan, in both areas and at both times allegedly without registration. These periods were both in the early years to which he had referred in his testimony when he had described the communal farm system; how in the years 1979 until about 1984, it was so difficult to get by without registration; the significant incentive to seek registration; and he thought it most unlikely indeed that there could be two such instances of residence without registration. Moreover, he noted that Ms Lai had arrived on the Mainland in 1978; claimed education up to secondary third year; had two brothers born on the Mainland in 1982 and 1986; and that the education that she had received, and the availability of medical services for the children, and the family profile - a family of five, were all indications that this had been a unit with registration; otherwise, he thought, they could not have survived.

101. Mr Choy points to the fact that in her screening interview in 1997, Ms Lai asserted that upon arrival at Nandao Farm, she was told that she was not registered there and was given money and told to go back to Beihai. This was a significant occurrence if true, yet, remarks Mr Choy, there is no mention of it in her 1996 arrival statement in which she merely says that she was repatriated to Hainan and that she then went to look for her mother in Beihai. At one stage she said that close to her return to Hong Kong in 1996, she had travelled from Guangdong to Beihai to ask her mother for money before setting off for Hong Kong; yet in 1997, she asserted that when she went to Beihai before her return to Hong Kong, the family were not there; her mother had been taken away for sterilization; suggestions not made in her 1996 statement. Indeed, in that statement, she had said that her family were "all living in Beihai".

102. But such inconsistencies to which he refers are by no means at all the centre point of Mr Choy's reasoning, though it might be said that they provided some cause in themselves for doubting her veracity. At the centre of his reasoning is the fact that the Mainland has told him that this lady was registered in Nandao Farm in Sanya, Hainan. He saw no reason not to accept that information as accurate. He also took into account country condition evidence. He rejected the suggestion that the family moved to Beihai because of the Mainland's one-child policy and its effect on the mother who was said to have been pregnant at the time of the move; not least because he applied his knowledge of official attitudes to those who had come from Vietnam, who he said were treated differently when it came to the one-child policy. His conclusion was that this lady and her family, as with so many others, preferred life in Beihai or the prospects which life there offered, to life on the farm in Hainan, and that that is why they left, and that that is why she did not want to stay in Hainan when returned there in 1995.

103. It is evident from material that I have been shown that his conclusions about the tendency of refugees to move from places of settlement to Beihai, and his conclusions about the different attitude to the one-child policy, when it came to those who had arrived on the Mainland from Vietnam, are not conclusions peculiar to Mr Choy. In proceedings before the Australian Senate in February 1995, Mr Fontaine, Regional representative of the Office of the UNHCR, spoke of the assumption that could safely be made that the overwhelming majority of the caseload were registered at some point. There was, he said, a sizeable population of squatters living in Beihai because Beihai had become a highly successful fishing co-operative and in Beihai they were living better lives than in the communities they had left. Even when sent back to their original localities, they would swiftly return to Beihai. He described Beihai as "a privileged area". As for the one-child policy, he said that the Vietnamese refugees have much larger families than the Chinese because the one-child policy is applied more leniently to them.

104. It can hardly, in the circumstances, be said that Mr Choy had reached a decision in Ms Lai's case which was not based on probative evidence. I would have thought that he had good reason to reach the conclusion he did. The fact that it took a long time to verify her place of registration is a fact, but it does not render his finding nugatory. There may be many reasons for such delay. Mr Marshall has speculated about some of them. There were, in July 1993, quite a number who came in from Beihai, and the fact is that hers was not a case which, like so many before her, could ready be resolved. But that does not mean that her account was true, simply because it took a long time to resolve. I have been taken to other cases which took a long time to resolve in which subsequent verification of prior settlement on the Mainland appears to be beyond question.

(3) Ta Minh Hieu

105. Mr Ta was born in June 1976. He went to the Mainland from Vietnam in 1981. He came to Hong Kong in August 1994. So he had been on the Mainland for 13 years before he came to Hong Kong, and was aged 18 years when he arrived. The essence of his story as recounted in evidence filed for these particular proceedings is that his parents fled Vietnam and came to Hong Kong without him in the late 1970s. He was left with his grandfather. He had not heard from his parents since 1979. In 1981 he and his grandfather were driven out to the Mainland, and once they were across the border they fled to Beihai. His grandfather attempted to register there but was told that it was too late. So they were never registered. In 1991 his grandfather passed away, and this applicant went to Guangdong to live with an uncle. He asserts that during a household check in 1992 he was arrested, and that he was forced across the border back into Vietnam by public security officers. On arrival in Vietnam, he was questioned by the authorities and because he had no household registration there, he was told to go back to the Mainland. He did, but did not think it safe to stay there, so he fled to Hong Kong, arriving here in August 1994.

106. In Mr Ta's case there has been no verification by the Chinese authorities of registration or settlement. What has happened is that Mr Choy simply does not accept the account he has been given and has concluded that Mr Ta has, in order to avoid verification either chosen not to give his true particulars or, perhaps because he was so young during the material time, that he has genuinely little recall of the true particulars.

107. Mr Dykes says that it is evident that Mr Choy is, in the absence of verification, straining to find against Ta, relies on minor inconsistencies, contradicts himself when it comes to his attitude to non-registration, and that his findings are purely speculative in the face of a consistent account by Mr Ta.

108. Mr Choy concludes that Mr Ta and his grandfather came to China as refugees and that since the border was a fortified area with many troop movements and there was a place for receiving and settling refugees, it is more likely that the grandfather and grandson were intercepted and received as refugees by the administrative apparatus that was in place. He thinks it more likely that Ta was settled with his grandfather on a farm or in Beihai where they had registration or the right to it. Mr Dykes' complaint is that for this conclusion there is simply no evidence; it is all pure supposition. The conclusion is not warranted, he says, by probative evidence or by the facts.

109. But Mr Choy has provided reasoning for his conclusions and I do not think that an examination of Mr Choy's approach warrants the judgment about that approach which Mr Dykes would have me make.

110. Mr Choy noted that this young man is a member of the Yao minority group which is an ethnic Chinese group. Ta spoke Cantonese and not Vietnamese. Ta was but five years old or so when he went to the Mainland and lived there for some 13 years. Not only did he live there for 13 years at a tender stage of his life, but the years included those from 1979 to 1984 when it was particularly difficult to evade registration, and when there was scant incentive for doing so. As for the account of living in Beihai for 10 years, Mr Choy cannot accept that that could have happened unless the grandfather and Ta had been registered somewhere on the Mainland.

111. Mr Dykes posed the question why any one should choose to live in a shack in Beihai, unregistered, rather than on a farm elsewhere where one would have the benefits of registration. Mr Choy's knowledge of Beihai and its circumstances seems to me to be particularly thorough, and his answer to this question is not only believable in itself but is also supported by other evidence to which I shall refer. He told the court of discussions he had held with the Vice-Mayor of Beihai when he visited Beihai, and the authorities there had paid particular attention to those living in illegal structures such as that described by Ta. People living in such structures for such a long period as described by Mr Ta would inevitably have been examined by the authorities. The sojourn of such people in those structures was a matter tolerated by the authorities but only so long as the occupants had registration elsewhere on the Mainland, and it was hoped by the authorities that they could persuade these people to take up low cost housing instead. As for the suggestion that people would choose to live in a shack in Beihai even when registered elsewhere on the Mainland, it is far from the astonishing suggestion that Mr Dykes says it is. It is a point dealt with before the Australian Legal and Constitutional Legislation Committee of the Senate in February 1995 by the UNHCR representative :

"The squatter population is made up of people who were properly registered in other parts of China ... who found themselves dissatisfied with their lives in the communities where they were situated and therefore decided to go to Beihai because Beihai was a highly successful fishing co-operative. ... In Beihai they were living better than in the communities they left. This is why every time the Chinese put them on buses and sent them back to their localities of origin, they would come right back to Beihai. The authorities used to complain to me that when they returned to Beihai they would find these people had already been there before the authorities who took them to their locality of origin. Why? Because the economic conditions in Beihai were better than in their locality of origin. What I mean is that these people who were squatters in Beihai where, in terms of Chinese Law, illegally living in Beihai. It does not mean that they were not registered in China. What it means is that they could go to their communities of origin if they chose to and live there legally. ... One of the problems that we find a lot of people do not understand is that Beihai is a privileged area. The survey that was done by UNHCR showed that the refugees in Beihai have a level of income twice that of Chinese nationals in Beihai."

112. As for the contention that the applicant Ta had been refouled in 1991 to Vietnam, it is a contention which Mr Choy rejects. Mr Choy's country condition knowledge tells him that the Chinese authorities have, as part of their policies, respected minority groups; and all the factors to which I have referred spelt to Mr Choy circumstances which tell strongly against refoulement. In 1991, when Ta is said to have been refouled, he would have been aged only 16 years and given Ta's ethnicity, Mr Choy can see no reason why the Chinese authorities, to whom the fact that Ta's native tongue was Cantonese would have been obvious, would have wished to refoule him. Nor has there been a single case that has come to his attention of refoulement of an ethnic Chinese who came from Vietnam during this period : no complaints of that kind either by countries party to the Comprehensive Plan of Action, or by the UNHCR. In addition to this, there arises what on the face of the documents is a stark contradiction between the arrival statement of Ta, and his screening statement in 1997. In June 1997, when interviewed for the purpose of the screening exercise required by the Privy Council decision, he asserted that in 1993 he was taken by the public security officers to the Vietnamese border, transported alone to the border and handed over to the Vietnamese authorities where he was questioned for half an hour and then asked to walk back to China. This is in direct contrast to the account allegedly given by the applicant to the immigration officers in his arrival statement in August 1994, in which he talks of going on his own by car, which he took, to Vietnam and asking if he could be registered there. He was then asked questions directed quite clearly at this issue of refoulement, and there is in that statement no hint of it. I am, however, conscious of the fact that there is a suggestion in earlier applications that these statements (and indeed statements of other applicants) might not be reliable. But even so, even putting aside this contradiction, Mr Choy has pointed to much that is a logical basis upon which he was entitled to conclude that Ta had been properly settled on the Mainland; that he had had household registration; but that he or his grandfather had chosen, for the same reason as adopted by so many others, not to avail themselves of it. I cannot properly interfere with this finding on the suggested footing that there is no evidence to support it.

113. I referred at the outset of this analysis of Ta's case to a suggested inconsistency or contradiction in Mr Choy's approach to the question of registration. It arises in this way : Mr Choy said in an affirmation in November 1997 that he did not accept that lack of education was necessarily a consequence of not being registered in Beihai, and he appeared to accept that for a 10-year period the applicant lived in Beihai unregistered. "I found that life in Beihai for unregistered persons who were refugees from Vietnam was accepted in Qiaogang Town in the period 1981 to 1991.... Information relevant at the time make it clear that Beihai and Qiaogang became an increasing haven for refugees from Vietnam who could earn more there as unregistered persons than they could as registered persons on the farms on which they had been settled." Mr Dykes asserts that this statement sits in stark contrast with the fact that in October 1997 Mr Choy said in a letter to a Director of Reception and Settlement of Indo-Chinese Refugees on the Mainland that the suggestion that refugees managed to stay illegally in the Mainland without household registration for more than 10 years since the early 1980s was, with other suggestions, "very ridiculous and totally unsubstantiated". I do not think that there is the inconsistency which Mr Dykes suggests. In the first place, it is obvious that in the letter of October 1997, Mr Choy was addressing a general proposition : it was his response to an assertion that some were never registered on the Mainland, even from the very beginning. That is quite a different matter from an assumption that there were those who were registered but then moved from their original place of registration to another place where they stayed unregistered for some time. But, more particularly, it is quite clear from the evidence as a whole that Beihai is viewed by Mr Choy and by others (including Mr Fontaine to whom I have referred) as an exceptional case, and an exceptional place.

(4) Tran Hoa Buu

114. Tran was born in 1974. He fled with his family to the Mainland from Vietnam in 1979, so that he was then aged only five years. He first came to Hong Kong in January 1993. He was then aged 19 years. He was sent back to the Mainland in January 1995, but he returned to Hong Kong in December 1995. So he is one of the double-backer cases.

115. His case is as follows : that on arrival in China from Vietnam, he and his family went straight to the Feng Chang area (not to be confused with Fang Cheng where the closed camp for Vietnamese refugees was situated) to the Hua Shi Forestry Farm where a maternal uncle lived, but that he and his family never had household registration there, or anywhere else for that matter. Schooling proved problematic because of lack of registration, and he was the subject of bullying and teasing. In 1991, his family returned to Vietnam, and he has not heard from them since. He wandered around the Mainland for a few years, and fled to Hong Kong in 1993. In January 1995, he was returned to Nanning in Guangxi Province. There he was put on a bus and simply told to go back from whence he came. He was given 15 yuan and an envelope with "Hua Shi Forestry Farm" written on it, and that is where he went. But he was not registered there and was told so, and he has a letter from the Office of Regional Settlement in the Feng Chang Autonomous Region saying that he was not registered there. It is dated 13 February 1995. So he had nowhere to go, and he therefore, in due course, made his way back to Hong Kong after leading a transient life on the Mainland. In other words, he asserts that he has never been absorbed into Mainland society, has never been recognized by the Chinese authorities as a refugee, was treated shoddily when he went back to the Mainland in 1995, and has every good reason to decline the offer by the Mainland authorities to settle him there.

116. Despite the letter from the Feng Chang official, Mr Choy decided that Tran had indeed been granted a durable solution as a refugee and had been granted protection on the Mainland before 1993; that the Mainland was prepared to accept him back and that he would be restored to a durable solution there. A cardinal piece of information was that Mr Tran was in fact registered and had been registered in Quigang Zhen, Beihai, Guangxi; and had been registered there at some stage before his departure for Hong Kong in 1993. That is information that Mr Choy had been given by Mr Tan Serong, the Deputy Director of the Office of Reception and Settlement of Indo-Chinese Vietnamese Refugees in Guangxi. If Mr Choy was entitled to accept that evidence, then it seems to me that that is the death knell of the assertion that there was, in Mr Tran's case, no probative evidence upon which Mr Choy could logically arrive at the conclusion at which he did arrive.

117. Mr Dykes argues that Mr Choy has, in his rush to make an adverse finding, overlooked a number of key factors and, in the same rush, has assumed that the applicant contrived falsely to persuade officials on the Mainland to send him to the Hua Shi Farm on his return in 1995 knowing full well that he was not registered there, so that he could avail himself of that non-registration when he subsequently returned to Hong Kong. He says that Mr Choy is suggesting that when Tran went back in 1995 to the Mainland, it was already known by the Director that he, Tran, had been settled in Beihai whereas it is evident from a number of factors that no one then thought that Tran was settled in Beihai, to wit the following factors :

1. he was flown from Hong Kong not to Beihai but to Nanning which is nearer to the Hua Shi Forestry Farm;

2. he was given an envelope in Hong Kong with his personal details on it which suggested he was to go to Hua Shi after arrival on the Mainland; and

3. there is evidence in an affirmation from Mr Choy that in January 1996 Mr Tran was, over a long distance telephone call, confirmed by the Mainland authorities to have been settled at the Hua Shi Forestry Farm.

118. None of these contra-indicators are dealt with, says Mr Dykes, by Mr Choy in his affirmations, and the evidence is such, Mr Dykes asserts, that Mr Choy was not entitled to conclude that Mr Tran was settled in Beihai. Had he been settled there, he would have returned there and not to Hua Shi where self-evidently he was not settled. It is said that the letter upon which Mr Choy relies contradicts other compelling evidence.

119. The problem with this attack is that the premise upon which it is based is not sound. Mr Choy does not in truth assert that before Tran's return to the Mainland there had been recorded verification of Tran's registration on the Hua Shi Farm. His evidence, which I accept, is that at the stage Tran was returned, the mode of verification was not based on records checked by the Chinese authorities. Before the Mainland authorities came to Hong Kong in 1994 to interview ethnic Chinese ex-Vietnam migrants, previous submissions had failed to result in positive identification at Hua Shi. The verification, such as it was, came in November 1994 as a result of interviews that the Chinese officials had had with Tran in Hong Kong and at a time when those officials did not have their records in Hong Kong. He says that he thinks that they checked their records when they returned; but that was his assumption. Mr Choy assumes that they had asked Tran a host of questions about his life on the Mainland and were convinced from what they had been told that he had been registered, and that he had been registered in Hua Shi. What happened when Mr Tran went back, according to the information conveyed to Mr Choy by the Mainland authorities, was that they checked and found that he belonged to Beihai and he was redirected there, but that he went to Hua Shi instead and obtained the letter he has produced. The fact that he was put on an aircraft to Nanning instead of to Beihai is, according to Mr Choy, neither here nor there because all or many of these people were sent in groups to Nanning. Nanning is the capital of Guangxi and although some flights did go to Beihai, that tended to be the case if there was to be interrogation on return, but the authorities did not want that to happen at Nanning which is a busy airport.

120. As for the fact that in January 1996 there was a call saying that Tran had been registered in Hua Shi, Mr Choy is unable to be certain what happened save that the call was likely to have been one not directed at individuals but at confirmation of a list. At the end of the November 1994 interviews, the Mainland authorities were satisfied that Tran was registered at Hua Shi Farm. Hong Kong then sought to obtain the Mainland's permission for Tran's return and, obviously, Hong Kong's record of him was that he was registered in Hua Shi; so that on the name list submitted to the Mainland officials, the Immigration Department put down Hua Shi. But there were other names on that list, and the telephone call of January 1996 probably related to an impending repatriation, by a chartered flight, of a group. Either the Mainland authorities telephoned or Hong Kong telephoned the Mainland authorities, and those authorities confirmed that the list of the persons to be repatriated was in order, and the assumption therefore was that Mr Tran was cleared for Hua Shi.

121. Nonetheless, Mr Choy is satisfied that the June 1996 confirmation was categorical and accurate.

122. If more than this verification in June 1996 be required, Mr Choy says that he finds it in the statements made by the applicant in records of interview in 1993 in which Tran said that the family had been "arranged by the Chinese public security officers to live in Hua Shi Farm". He talks there of studying at school, and Mr Choy says that the description of family activities and his schooling have the hallmarks of privileges connected with refugees status, and that the reference to public security officers settling them corresponds with the fact that public security officers worked alongside resettlement officers on the Mainland.

123. He also points out in his evidence that he fails to see how this applicant could have gone all the way from Vietnam straight to the forestry farm without registration. He refers to a statement made in 1995 by the applicant in which he described the elder and younger brother : "With the arrangement of the Chinese authorities, we, a family of five, were arranged to live at Hua Shi Forestry Farm and worked as carpenters". Mr Choy says that this is a typical family profile at the time and the reference to 'arrangement' is, and can only be, a reference to official settlement. It may be, he says, that the family were first registered at Beihai and then moved to the forestry farm because, perhaps, they knew people there. He points out that the applicant would have been very young at the time of these events and that his memory of events may not be very accurate. He takes the view that the authorities would not have allowed the family to stay at Hua Shi, unless registered somewhere on the Mainland.

124. He also points to the fact that Mr Tran's solicitors said that there was a tape between Mr Tran and the Mainland officials to support his case, but that none has ever been produced.

125. The fact of the matter is that the authorities on the Mainland insist that this applicant had been registered there, and they have identified the place of registration. Mr Choy has provided a credible explanation for his acceptance of that assurance. He has also pointed to features of Mr Tran's family profile and history which persuade him that this applicant was settled on the Mainland.

126. It is not shown that Mr Choy's findings in the case of Mr Tran are based on evidence that is not logically probative. Mr Choy was, in my judgment, entitled to come to the conclusion at which he arrived.

NO EVIDENCE : CONCLUSION

127. Mr Dykes' contention that an examination of these four cases would demonstrate such errors on Mr Choy's part that had he been made aware of them, he would have come to a different view of the general evidence upon which he relied is a contention which has not been made good. Upon an examination of the cases and of Mr Choy's reasons for coming to the conclusions at which he arrives, I am satisfied that the applicants do not come close to showing that the decisions or any of them were unsupported by probative evidence. Nor is the case made out that the country condition and other evidence upon which Mr Choy concluded that the applicants had enjoyed on the Mainland a durable solution was evidence which lacks sufficient cogency or force or probative value that he ought not to have relied upon it. It is not for this court to say whether it would have arrived at the same conclusions. It is only for this court to say whether the evidence was such as to entitle Mr Choy to arrive at his conclusions and, in my judgment, the evidence clearly passes that threshold.

III. RESULT

128. It follows that the two heads of attack which have been the subject of this second stage hearing have not been brought home by the applicants.

129. In the light of these findings and the findings which are evidenced by my judgment of September 1998, it follows that the attack on the removal orders made in June, July, August and October 1997 (and the decisions to make those orders), which are the subject of this judicial review, fails. I am satisfied that they were decisions and orders that were lawfully made. The application for an order of certiorari to bring up those decisions (and orders) and to quash them is therefore rejected.

130. I note that there is also an application to quash the decisions of the Director, made at the time of the decisions to make the removal orders, to order the detention of the applicants under section 32(1)(a) of the Immigration Ordinance, pending removal. There have been addressed in the proceedings before me no separate arguments specifically against the detention orders, in other words additional to those arguments affecting the removal orders, and it was unnecessary to do so because the validity of those original decisions to detain depends in this case on the validity of the removal orders. (I should add that the continued detention of the applicants was by the time of the hearings before me not a live issue because the applicants had by then be released.) The removal orders were valid, and in this application I see nothing to impeach the validity of the decisions, made at or about the time of the removal orders, to detain the applicants pending their removal. So the applications to bring up and quash those decisions are also rejected.

131. The only other relief sought was in respect of a decision by the Secretary for Security, said to be made on behalf of the Director, that applicants with Vietnamese spouses might be removed to the Mainland without their spouses and children, and that their spouses and children might be removed to Vietnam; and the applicants sought a declaration that it would be unlawful to remove applicants with Vietnamese spouses without their spouses and children. As I pointed out in the judgment of September 1998, I was told that that decision was not to be implemented, and I am not asked to make a determination about it.

132. Accordingly, this application for judicial review is dismissed.

COSTS

133. That leaves the question of costs. While costs should follow the event, I shall in this case qualify the order. I have referred in my judgment of May 1999 to the extraordinary length and complexity of evidence filed in this case by the respondent and to the unnecessary and lengthy analysis of law in affirmations filed on his behalf. I note too that the hearing of this application was extended by the need to hear Mr Choy's oral evidence, and that need was occasioned largely by the fact that this court was unhappy about the manner in which the affirmations on his behalf were drawn. I am in the circumstances of the view that the applicants should pay to the respondent only 80% of his costs of this application for judicial review. Accordingly, there will be a costs order nisi to that effect, such costs to be taxed, if not agreed.

134. There were an unusually large number of interlocutory applications in this case, including applications for directions, to strike out, for amendments, for discovery and for cross-examination; and in respect of quite a few of these applications costs were reserved. I shall in due course hear the parties in relation to those costs reserved if, in the absence of agreement, it proves necessary to do so.

 

 

(F. Stock)
Judge of the Court of First Instance,
High Court

 

Representation:

Mr Philip Dykes, S.C., leading Mr Matthew Chong, instructed by Messrs Pam Baker & Co., for the Applicants

Mr W.R. Marshall, SC, leading Mr Wesley Wong, SGC of Department of Justice, for the Respondent

 

33237-EN-1999-05-26

TRAN THANG LAM AND OTHERS v. THE DIRECTOR OF IMMIGRATION

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HCAL000080B/1997

HCAL80/97

IN THE HIGH COURT OF THE

HONG KONG SPECIAL ADMINISTRATIVE REGION

COURT OF FIRST INSTANCE

ADMINISTRATIVE LAW LIST NO.80 OF 1997

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BETWEEN
TRAN THANG LAM AND OTHERSApplicants
AND
THE DIRECTOR OF IMMIGRATIONRespondent

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Coram: Stock J in Court

Dates of hearing : 3 - 5 March 1999

Date of handing down judgment : 26 May 1999

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J U D G M E N T

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Background

1. This is an application to re-re-amend the notice of motion in this judicial review. These proceedings were launched in September 1997 when leave to apply for judicial review was granted. The decisions which have been central to the case are those made by the Director of Immigration between June and October 1997 by which the Director classified the applicants as refugees from Vietnam in China, permitted them to remain as such in Hong Kong under section 13A of the Immigration Ordinance, and then ordered their removal to China under section 13E of that Ordinance. It is the removal orders which are under challenge. By the time the substantive application came to be heard in July 1998, it was infused with such a multitude of extant issues (with the possibility of yet further grounds if applications to re-re-amend were allowed), and so awash with torrents of evidence filed, that I decided first to try a number of defined central issues which might dispose of the case, or if not dispose of it, at least (one hoped) make it more manageable and also help to crystallise issues in the several complex interlocutory applications which were outstanding.

2. Five central issues or questions were drawn for my determination and they were answered in a judgment which was handed down in September 1998. The determination of those issues did not, in the event, dispose of the case, and before the second substantive stage of the application for judicial review can proceed, I must decide the outstanding interlocutory applications.

The remaining interlocutory applications

3. The interlocutory applications to be determined are these :

(1) an application by the applicants to re-re-amend the notice of motion;

(2) an application by the applicants for the attendance of witnesses who have deposed on behalf of the respondent;

(3) an application by the applicants for discovery of document; and

(4) applications by each side to strike out evidence filed by the other.

4. Applications for cross-examination, for discovery, and to strike out evidence, depend largely on the application to re-re-amend, and it is that application with which this judgment deals.

The less complex applications

5. There are a number of applications to re-re-amend which resolve themselves quite readily, and I shall address them first.

6.Paragraph 50A :It is proposed to insert this paragraph to contend that when the applicants were interviewed by immigration officers, the procedure adopted by the officers was unfair insofar as the officers did not show them their arrival statements, thus depriving them of the opportunity adequately to present their case fully. This is an issue which, it so happens, I have addressed fully in the judgment already delivered. It makes sense, therefore, to give leave to make the re-re-amendment, but the point does not fall for further argument.

7.Paragraph 52A : The suggestion here is that the applicants and their legal representatives were refused the opportunity to review interview notes as well as prior statements, and to make submissions and corrections prior to the decisions to remove the applicants from Hong Kong. This, too, is an issue canvassed before me at the hearing last year, and determined in the course of my judgment, and I grant leave to make the re-re-amendment though, again, it is not a point open to further debate.

8.Paragraphs 53(8) to (12) inclusive : Paragraphs 53(1) to (7) inclusive (argument in respect of which leave has already been given by Keith J.) are allegations that the Director was predisposed to disbelieve the applicants, wherefore no fair determination could be made. This allegation is based upon the fact that the decision maker was Mr Choy, to whom extensive reference is made in the first stage judgment, that he had been intimately involved in the past few years defending the merits of what is said to have been an unlawful policy designed to secure the removal of the applicants as if they were illegal immigrants; that he has always maintained that the Mainland settled all ethnic Chinese from Vietnam; that he relied exclusively upon his own understanding of conditions for ethnic Chinese who fled to the Mainland from Vietnam; that he failed to find in favour of even one applicant; that he interviewed none of the applicants; that in several cases immigration officers said that the interviews were but a mere formality, and that a decision had already been made to send them back; and that it was unnecessary for Mr Choy to be the decision maker. It is proposed by the re-re-amendments to add paragraphs (8) to (12) to contend that Mr Choy was acting in bad faith (a contention fairly close, it seems to me, to the tenor of the allegation of predisposition); and, by way of particulars of this allegation of bad faith, and further particulars of the predisposition allegation, that in related habeas corpus proceedings in August 1997, before many of the decisions subject to this judicial review were taken, it was already evident that he had made up his mind that the Mainland settled all refugees from Vietnam in China; that he, in May 1997, had told the solicitors for the applicants not to take hasty and ill advised judicial review proceedings; that the approach to potential resettlement countries about the possibility of resettlement of the applicants was a charade; that he Mr Choy has always referred to the applicants as "illegal immigrants"; and that his decisions evidence a deliberate ploy to circumvent appeal to the Refugee Status Review Board. All these allegations are, it seems to me, extensions or further particulars of the predisposition argument for which leave has already been given, and it would be artificial if I were not to grant leave for these specific re-re-amendments. Nor do I think that the granting of leave to add these particulars will (further) encourage the infinite process of contestation, which is a virus that has already invaded the body of this judicial review. Accordingly, I grant leave for these re-re-amendments by the insertion of paragraphs (8) to 12 inclusive.

The more complex applications

9. There remain two categories of re-re-amendments which are somewhat more difficult to determine :

10. The first may broadly be described as an allegation that the Director, in the person of Mr Choy, did not in fact himself make the decisions which he says he made, but that the decisions were in fact made by others, namely, by his subordinates, the immigration officers who interviewed the applicants :

(1) Paragraph 54 : By this proposed paragraph, it is intended to assert that Mr Choy should have, but did not, interview the applicants or put to them reasons why he was minded to make the removal orders. I pause to note that this is an issue already determined against the applicants in the judgment which I have delivered. It is said in the same paragraph that :

"In the circumstances, in adopting the procedures she did, the Director of Immigration unlawfully delegated her powers under s.13E to immigration officers who decided the questions of fact which determined whether an order under s.13E would be made by Choy."

Given my decision that there was no obligation upon Mr Choy to conduct the interviews himself nor to notify the applicants of his intention to make a removal order, the second contention is not tenable. In order to marry the notice of motion with issues which have been argued and determined, I shall grant leave for the re-re-amendment which is the proposed paragraph 54, but the point does not fall for further debate.

(2) The proposed paragraphs 55 and 56 assert that, alternatively, Mr Choy acted at the dictation of the immigration officers in making his decisions under section 13E(1) to order the removal of the applicants from Hong Kong. The point, as outlined by Mr Dykes SC in argument on behalf of the applicants, is somewhat different from the point in paragraph 54. The suggestion here is that Mr Choy did not himself, in truth, consider the individual cases as he suggests. It is argued that the reasons which he has given for the orders which he has made constitute an ex post facto rationalisation. This is argument which I shall deal with below under the heading "the bogus reasons amendments" :

There remain proposed allegations which, although not all gathered under this head in the (proposed) notice of motion, nonetheless can conveniently be said to come under the umbrella of that which Mr Dykes has labelled "procedural mishap". The new paragraphs which the applicants wish to insert are :

(1) Paragraph 52B : an assertion that the records of screening interviews and prior statements of some applicants have been rewritten, altered, amended, or that relevant information has been omitted.

(2) Paragraph 52C : a contention that the process of read back during interviews was perfunctory and rushed.

(3) Paragraph 57 : the allegation is that the information finally presented to Mr Choy was "corrupt", in that there were errors in the records of interview; arrival statements had not been read back, and were incomplete; answers were, in their recording, suppressed and distorted and inaccurate, both in arrival statements and in records of screening interviews (in one case the word "falsification" is used in relation to a screening statement); and that there were threats of violence, and that there was intimidating conduct when arrival statements were taken.

The immediate task

11. In practical terms, the ramifications of permitting these further amendments are substantial. It would almost certainly mean further discovery of documents, and oral evidence in the case of each applicant in order to determine the credibility of his or her complaint, and then, if credible, argument on the materiality of errors to the decision making process, and cross-examination of those who have deposed on behalf of the Respondent. I am told that it would be necessary for further documentary evidence (affidavits and exhibits) to be filed before such mini-trials were conducted, adding therefore to the 4,000 or so pages already filed in relation to ten of the applicants alone.

12. It is a case in which far too much evidence has in any event already been filed, a comment I made in my judgment in September last year, and it is a case in which, I regret to say, not too much attention has been paid to facilitating the task of this court. One has but to pick a morsel from one of the affirmations filed for a taste of what I mean :

"Another new example of misinterpretation and misconstruction is in paragraph 15 of Robert Brook's 7th affirmation. He now misrepresents what I said in my 1st interlocutory affirmation to achieve, at least in his mind, a discrepancy between my 3rd affirmation in the substantive proceedings and my 1st interlocutory affirmation. At the same time, he succeeds in ignoring paragraph 319 of my 3rd affirmation in the substantive proceedings which is clearly to be read with the earlier paragraph 253 in the same affirmation which he misinterprets."

13. How it is thought that any court can possibly follow passages of that kind, and how it is thought that this quantity of evidence can, in a judicial review, ever be warranted, and how it is thought that public expenditure to this extent can be justified are matters which I will in due course have to address. It follows that an important facet of the exercise upon which I have been engaged in this interlocutory application is an attempt to ensure that the case will only proceed within the realms for which judicial review is designed, to assess whether points which are now sought to be taken could have been taken before; to assess how material are alleged errors or omissions to the decisions taken in this case; and to guard against any temptation that there may be to drag this case into every conceivable tributary created by the evidence, as that evidence relentlessly erupts. To these ends, I have listened to oral submissions by counsel for three days and have since examined, in detail, the evidence filed to see what allegations were made, when and by whom, and importantly, to assess the materiality of the points now raised.

Procedural history

14. These applicants have been litigating their positions since 1995. The history before 1997 is rehearsed in my September 1998 judgment. The history of these particular proceedings is as follows :

15. In August 1997, the applicants obtained leave to apply for judicial review. It was said in the grounds then advanced that the evidence originally placed before the Director of Immigration was that they had been denied minimum rights, in other words, that there was no evidence upon which the Director of Immigration could properly conclude that Conclusion 58 (of the Executive Committee of the High Commissioner's Programme) did not apply.

16. In support of the application, affirmations were filed by ten of the applicants stating what had happened to them on the Mainland after their departure from Vietnam in or about 1979.

17. By two affirmations in late November 1997, Mr Choy on behalf of the Director answered their affirmations and set out at length the history of the "ECVII" problem and, in particular, the evidence to hand of country conditions which suggested to him what had in fact happened to those who left Vietnam in 1979 or thereabouts. He then also dealt with the cases of the ten applicants, and why it was he did not believe them. In doing that, he referred, certainly, to disparities between their arrival statements and their screening statements, but also tested their credibility and particular assertions made by them against his knowledge of country conditions, and of Mainland policies, and of expenditure of resources, and against what happened in particular areas (such as Behei), which did not fit the accounts given, as well as other factors which militated against their stories; and, not least, against evidence from Mainland authorities about what had happened to particular applicants.

18. In early December 1997, there was then an application by the applicants for discovery of documents. What the applicants sought was discovery of the interview records and the immigration records. Keith J. declined to order discovery. He referred in his judgment to authority (R v Secretary of State for Home Affairs ex parte Harris (unreported; 10th December 1987) which was to the effect that an applicant for judicial review was not entitled to go behind an affidavit in order to seek to ascertain whether it was correct or not, unless there was some material available outside that contained in the affidavit to suggest that in some material respect, the affidavit was not accurate.

19. At the end of December 1997, affidavits were filed by the 'test' applicants - all alleging errors in the records by immigration officers. There are allegations of bad faith, including allegations that the immigration officers in the screening process said that the applicants would be sent back, whether or not they were classified as refugees, and allegations that arrival statements were inaccurate.

20. At the same time, the applicants gave notice that they would apply to re-amend the application to allege procedural unfairness and predisposition. On 6th January 1998, they were granted leave by Keith J. to do so, and the re-amendments were made in early February 1998. The procedural fairness amendment did not make allegations of bad faith, or of inaccurate records, or of intimidation; in other words, there were no allegations in those re-amendments of "procedural mishap". Instead, the re-amendment alleging procedural unfairness constituted allegations that country condition evidence was not put to the applicants, and that the Director was predisposed to disbelieve them.

21. In late February 1998, Keith J. gave leave to the respondent to file further evidence, and the applicants to file evidence in reply to such further evidence as the respondent would file.

22. At the end of February 1998, there was filed a long affirmation by Mr Choy. Not including its exhibits, it ran to 73 pages. It deals with the following matters :

(1) It purports to interpret, at some length, the decision of the Privy Council in the proceedings which constituted the precursor to these proceedings.

(2) It states that although country condition evidence was such as to justify general conclusions about registration of refugees from Vietnam, he, Mr Choy, has considered each case and were he to find that a particular applicant had slipped the settlement net he would find that that applicant had not been recognised and protected as a refugee in China and was therefore entitled to resettlement overseas. "I certainly did not see any proposition based on country condition evidence as predeterminative of all individual decision." But he has nonetheless used country condition evidence to evaluate aspects of individual claims to assess whether facts alleged are credible. He deals then in this affirmation at considerable length with country condition evidence, and with the Australian experience, and refutes country condition evidence advanced by the solicitors for the applicants. He asserts that there is no reliable evidence of refoulement. He describes the assessment of the UNHCR and of various countries to persons in the category of the applicants, namely, that they have been properly resettled in the Mainland. He then addresses the added grounds of the application which allege procedural unfairness, talks of 'corporate decision making', and describes the process by which the decisions in these cases were made. As for the suggestion that officers told applicants that the procedure was a formality and that they would all be sent back any way, this is denied. He states that the current offer from the Mainland authorities to settle all those returned includes any who may have "fallen through the cracks." He deals with the assertions of double backers as to their treatment upon return, addressing each case in turn. He reveals fresh information about one of the applicants, Hoang Viet Sinh, whose origin had, by the time of this affirmation, been traced, it being revealed that Hoang first came to Hong Kong under a different name and had in fact been registered on a farm in Fujian Province.

23. Then there were filed in February 1998, a host of affirmations by immigration officers dealing with what happened with the ten test applicants.

24. There is, for example, an officer who deals with the arrival registration form relating to one of the applicants, Nguyen Tuan Cuong. It is exhibited. Then there is another officer, Mr Lau, who says he took the "bio data" from this applicant during the screening exercise in 1997, and he denies telling Nguyen that the result was a forgone conclusion. Then yet another officer speaks (in an 18 page affirmation) of the interview of Nguyen upon arrival in 1991, and the statement is produced. It is said to have taken one hour and ten minutes, and that the whole statement was read back, and discrepancies put. There is a swathe of evidence filed by Nguyen in various affirmations in various proceedings. There are answers to the allegation that interpretation was inadequate; and answers to specific allegations of inaccuracies in recordings. Then there is yet another affirmation by the same officer - this one is 23 pages long - it deals with the screening interviews of Nguyen; answers allegations of selectivity in taking down answers; and answers allegations that he wrote down answers on a rough piece of paper with a view to rewriting them in proper form later. I note that all this answers allegations made in the proposed re-re-amendments, for which leave had not been given at the date of these affirmations. It is, as with so many affirmations filed by the respondent in this case, a very detailed analysis of allegations made, with very detailed answers. Then the record of the screening interview is produced.

25. And so, of course, in accordance with the order which gave him leave to do so, Mr Nguyen put in his reply to this reply - another 21 pages of affirmation. This was dated 15th February 1998. He makes allegations about how statements were taken; that there was no read back; and then he analyses affirmations of immigration officers to show how they in themselves are faulty and how they support claims made by the applicants, and he repeats the allegation that he was told that the outcome was a foregone conclusion.

26. There were literally hundreds of pages of evidence filed at this stage of the exchange alone - hundreds, and in relation to ten applicants only.

27. At the same time, the applicants' solicitors were alleging, in a further affirmation (which, with exhibits, runs to 349 pages) that much of the respondent's evidence was inadmissible. They said that much of the information attested to by the immigration officers had not been before Mr Choy when he made his decision. Still, they had no choice, it was said, but to file evidence in reply to assertions in the respondent's evidence as to what had happened to individual cases. This affirmation deals with a host of matters, including comments upon the Director's country condition evidence and its sources; states that applicants have told them, the solicitors, that they were threatened when arrival statements were taken; states that applicants have said that screening records were falsified; questions the suggestion that Mr Choy read all the screening and arrival records; and, inter alia, complains that Mr Choy has refused to provide for their examination copies of the recommendations made to him in any of the individual cases.

28. Needless to say that was not the end of the matter, for the applicants then felt compelled to state individually their responses to the assertions about how the records of interviews were in fact taken.

29. Then in early May last year, there was an application that the new evidence file by the applicants be struck out. That, too, was the time when this application to re-re-amend the application for judicial review was filed. It was said that it was the provision of screening records and full reasons for the decisions which now enabled the applicants to frame the additional grounds which were not previously available to them.

30. The applicants also filed an application that part of the respondent's evidence "be struck from the record".

Material non-disclosure

31. It is argued by the respondent that I should not now permit amendment because the applicants have been guilty of material non-disclosure in that they put forward a case they knew to be unsound and have thus not acted in good faith, so that they should, for that reason alone, be deprived of relief. The argument targets the ground put forward in the original application for leave, namely, that there was "no evidence" upon which the Director could properly have concluded that Conclusion 58 was applicable; yet it is evident (according to this argument) that the applicants knew that each had made an arrival statement and that each had been subject to a screening interview, so that it must have been obvious to them that these interviews afforded evidence - some evidence -upon which an adverse decision could be made. What is now, instead, proposed to be argued is that the evidence might be there, but that it is tainted by error or malpractice. It is said that if there were legitimate complaints vitiating the validity of the arrival statements, they must have been in the minds of the applicants at the time of the first and second affirmations, so that the applicants knew there was evidence. So, too, it is said, the true grounds were suppressed in January 1998 when the re-amendments were advanced.

32. I think that this is a misconceived objection. This is not a non-disclosure point. This is not a case of misleading the court. This is, rather, an argument that the new grounds are grounds which should previously have been advanced but were not, and might, for that reason, be a valid ground for objecting to an amendment now based on a ground known to the applicants some time ago.

Threats, intimidation and failure to read back

33. The allegations in the proposed paragraph 57 under the heading "procedural mishap" are mixed. They include allegations of threats and intimidation as well as of erroneous records of interviews, and they vary from individual to individual. In the course of argument upon this interlocutory application, Mr Dykes, SC, was content to utilise the cases of three applicants to test or illustrate the merits of this aspect of his application.

34. The allegations of threats and intimidation, allegations that the officers said that the whole matter was a foregone conclusion, allegations that read back of arrival and screening interviews was perfunctory, are allegations which could all have been made before. This is a case with a very very long history and the applicants' solicitors, as well versed in immigration matters, I venture to think, as any firm of solicitors in this territory, have been acting for these applicants for years. They and the applicants must have known that there had been interviews upon arrival and that an obvious source, and the usual source, of testing the credibility of an applicant for refugee status was to compare what he or she said on one occasion with that which he or she had said on another. Anybody who has had any contact with cases before the Refugee Status Review Board and with judicial review of decisions of that Board, or of earlier decisions of immigration officials, would know how common place a device that is. It is an obvious device with which to test credibility; one of the most obvious there is.

35. It is not to be forgotten that this is the second judicial review launched by these applicants. The first was launched as long ago as 1995. In 1995, it was evident from affirmations filed by the Director of Immigration that he viewed with considerable scepticism claims made in those proceedings that the applicants had been persecuted on the Mainland. In an affirmation dated 23rd August 1995, Mr Choy said that :

"During the course of immigration examination of the applicants no evidence of persecution in China in terms of the Convention and the Protocol has been detected, and no claims have ever been received. In the present cases claims are now made that the various applicants suffered discriminatory treatment ..."

36. In 1995, and again in early August 1997, before the institution of this judicial review, Mr Choy addressed the fact in affirmations that the applicants had been examined - clearly meaning examined on arrival - "and were found to be ECVIIs".

"The majority would admit to be Vietnam refugees settled in China and report to us their residential address upon their arrival in Hong Kong. Some of them would only give an admission when they failed in the examination... According to the records, all the applicants have admitted to be Vietnam refugees settled in China for not less than five years..."

It is difficult to know what anyone could have thought My Choy was referring to, if not arrival statements.

37. It is instructive for the present purpose to examine what some of the ten applicants said in August 1997 in affirmations filed in support of this judicial review, as well, in some cases, in affirmations filed in preceding years.

(1) In August 1997, Mr Long Quoc Tong filed two affirmations stating that there had been an initial interview as well as a screening interview; that he had said he had never been settled on the Mainland and that he had been refouled to Vietnam. In a 1995 affirmation, he referred to being detained at Green Island upon arrival, and that he had told the authorities then that he had no registration on the Mainland, and that there were five interviews with the Immigration Department before 1993. It is also clear that by late November 1993, he knew that the Immigration Department did not accept his claim to have come here from Vietnam and had decided that he was an ex China Vietnam illegal immigrant - there are letters exhibited to his own 1995 affirmation saying just that. So, it was or ought to have been clear by then that the Director of Immigration was not accepting the credibility of what some applicants had said at Green Island and thereafter.

(2) On 14th July 1995, Mr Nguyen, whose name provided the title to the allied case which went to the Privy Council, affirmed in that case that he was interviewed in Green Island twice in 1991 and again in 1992, and that he then told the immigration officers what had happened to him. He told them his life history. In that affirmation, he sets out that life history. In a response as long ago as 23rd August 1995, Mr Choy stated why he did not believe that life history, and in particular why he did not believe the central allegation that the defendant had spent time at a detention camp called Fang Cheng. The Mainland authorities, according to Mr Choy, stated that Mr Nguyen had simply never been a Fang Cheng resident. The advantage of being a Fang Cheng resident is that they were, none of them, sent back to the Mainland. On 25th August 1995, Mr Nguyen affirmed further. He simply responded that this was not good enough and that he could not understand why he was not recorded at that camp and that Mr Choy had failed to address what his fellow detainees said to support him. Then there came a reply from Mr Choy in which he pointed out that Mr Nguyen had made statements on arrival which "did not accord with the account he had now given". "There are", asserted Mr Choy -- as long ago, be it noted, as 1995 -- "considerable differences" and he even exhibited the arrival statement signed by Mr Nguyen in the presence of an interpreter.

38. So, again, at that stage, it must have been obvious to those advising the applicants that comparisons were being made with the arrival statements. It is obvious that Mr Nguyen's arrival statement contained considerable detail about the immigrants' history. If Mr Nguyen was typical, then the questioning upon arrival was, and the histories given were, fairly detailed. There was no suggestion then of bad faith in the sense of concoctions or abuse or threats when arrival statements were taken.

39. So we come to 1997 and on 27th August, Mr Nguyen made an affirmation in support of the present application. Here he sets out his life history again, and his problems on the Mainland. He asserts that he was prosecuted on the Mainland. As for suggested inconsistencies in his various accounts he complains that they are not really inconsistencies, and that, anyway, the life histories were taken in a very informal way. He then makes assertions as to errors in the 1991 record, and adds that he did not know what he was signing because he did not read Chinese. Then there is a further affirmation from him that he told his life history as stated in the August 1997 affirmation to the immigration officers during the screening interview.

40. The re-re-amendments now seek to assert that the arrival statement was taken without read-back and was incomplete and that answers were suppressed and that there are errors in the record about his life history.

41. Mr Choy, in November 1997, deals at great length with Mr Nguyen's case, stating that he has studied, not just one arrival statement and one screening statement; but there are four or five different statements over a period of years which are compared and in which discrepancies are found. There is reference to "an attempt during screening to account for discrepancies by saying the first statement might be inaccurate because of ..." inadequate interpretation. So, it is thus explicitly stated that discrepancies appear to have been put to him and an opportunity given to answer them.

42. In his December 1997 affirmation, Mr Nguyen states that he was told upon screening that whether or not he was screened in as a refugee he was going to be sent back to the Mainland; the interviewing officer wrote selectively and it was obvious that he was taking notes away from which to compose and rewrite a record; arrival statements were but summaries; they contained errors and there was no read back; they were internally inconsistent and unreliable. There was much he is said to have told the immigration officers which he asserts he did not. Furthermore, he contends that it is impossible from Mr Choy to have conducted the detailed examination of each applicant's case as Mr Choy purports in his November affirmation to have done.

(3) Tran Hua Buu is a "double backer" -- that is, one of the applicants who was sent back to the Mainland by the Hong Kong authorities, but has since returned. This applicant said in his August 1997 affirmation that the Director has it all wrong and that the representations from the Mainland authorities about what happened to him when he was first returned to the Mainland from Hong Kong are inaccurate representations. He says that he was never registered in China after his arrival there in 1979 until his first departure in 1993. There has already been aired in the courts in other proceedings a factual dispute about what happened to him and other double backers. This was aired in correspondence in 1996, and in affirmations in 1997. In January 1996, replying to contentions raised by the applicant's solicitors on behalf of six double backers, the Director of Immigration stated that "when your clients came back, they did not mention failure to obtain registration or non-acceptance in original farms".

43. So, it is clear that the applicants and their advisers knew or ought to have known well before the current re-re-amendments were proposed that the immigration authorities relied, or were likely to rely, heavily on arrival statements that had been made and upon such disparities as they might find between such statements and screening statements. By late November 1997, the applicants would have known what the alleged disparities were, and the suggested significance of them. The approach of the applicants has, in this regard, been a piecemeal and incremental approach and in my judgment they should not now be permitted to introduce amendments to make allegations of intimidation and abuse or of failure to read back statements, matters about which - if true - they would have been fully cognisant a long time ago.

Procedural Mishap

44. The allegation is that the decision maker, Mr Choy, relied in making his decisions on material that was inaccurate and misleading and that, as a matter of law, where that happens, even though not the fault of the decision maker, the decision is liable to be vitiated. The nature of the allegation is that when records of interviews were taken, there were errors.

(1) Examples

45. The examples of three of the applicants are taken to demonstrate the kind of errors alleged. I shall summarise the allegations because it is worth seeing, I think, the kind of detail into which the applicants wish this court to delve in this case :

(i) Mr Nguyen : Mr Choy refers to disparities between the stories given by this applicant over a period of time. One of the disparities is that he, Mr Nguyen, had said in April 1991 that he had first been looked after, before his escape from Vietnam, by someone called Chan; and then, after he arrived on the Mainland, by someone called Hoang; whereas in a later interview, he said that Mr Hoang looked after him in Vietnam before he escaped to the Mainland. What has happened, it is alleged by Mr Nguyen, is that an error has crept into the record and that in fact Mr Nguyen met someone called Chan on arrival in Hong Kong, whom he supposes to be a UNHCR official, and that this name has somehow found its way into the record in place of Hoang, and that this error has then been converted into an inconsistency and used against him. This suggested error and this likelihood is disputed by the respondent, but nonetheless that is the nature of the point taken. It is fairly typical of the points taken, as the next example illustrates.

(ii) Ho Quay Nguyen : Mr Choy has said that this applicant's credibility was zero, and in support of that conclusion, he cites a number of discrepancies. It is said that in one statement, Mr Ho had said that he was the youngest of the family whereas in another he was not the youngest. The dates given for fleeing from Vietnam are different. In 1991, he had said that his family had household registration, and in the previous proceedings which reached in the Privy Council, he had not mentioned a tea farm which was mentioned in 1991. I should say in passing that it seems to me that Mr Choy appears to rely mainly, not on these internal disparities, but on information he has received from the Mainland about the actual place where this applicant had been settled. But, be that as it may, this applicant states that the screening record produced by the screening officer in these proceedings was not the original screening document. That, he says, is demonstrated by the fact that in the manuscript notes produced his first brother is said "all along to have been a cook for the army in North Vietnam; and that in about 1954 that brother moved to Saigon". Yet the first brother was only born in 1945 and if he moved to Saigon in 1954, how could he "all along have been a cook in North Vietnam"? In fact, it was his second brother who was a cook for the North Vietnam army. So this shows, he says, that the record could not have been contemporaneous as is suggested. This error is culled from something like 30 pages of information, much of it in manuscript writing, from the immigration officer. I have little doubt but that from all interviews of this length, it will be possible in each and every case to glean at least one error or to show, perhaps, that notes had been rewritten from original notations. Still, it follows, it is said by the applicants, that the decision maker did not have a complete and accurate record of what was said and that he did not have a contemporaneous record.

(iii) In the case of Lai Yen, it is said that Mr Choy "relied upon inconsistencies in records". This is only partly accurate. It is clear from a reading of his reasoning that the main reason for rejecting her account is that the Mainland authorities had verified her residence in Hainan : "Since China has verified her residence in Hainan, her claims to the Director had no credibility and were materially at odds with her own previous claims". Nonetheless, she complains that Mr Choy says that in her 1996 interview she had claimed that the family had been properly resettled in Hainan in 1978. She says that these words did not, and do not, appear in her 1996 statement. I am not sure that I follow that assertion for there is reference in her 1996 statement to going to a farm in Hainan and that "the witness of our settlement was Hua Queyn Lan". This was in 1978, and in that statement, she says or is alleged to have said that in 1990 she moved to Guangdong. I do not think that it far fetched to interpret that as her saying that she was settled in Hainan. But that is not all : she is said by Mr Choy to have claimed to have been educated at P.3 level, whereas the 1996 interview record shows that it was actually P.5. A further complaint is that there is no mention, apparently, by Mr Choy that in 1996 she had said that she came to Hong Kong because she was not registered on the Mainland. Yet the 1996 record shows that she said in 1996 that "as I have no household in the Mainland, I wish to look for jobs in Hong Kong". That may be, but again, the matter must be looked at in proper context for Mr Choy does refer to non-registration in Beihai "where she did not have household registration but where her [family] lived". That, however, is not to say that she had not been registered elsewhere. "The information from China" says Mr Choy, "was that she and her family had been, and is, registered at Nandoa Farm, Sanya, Hainan. I accept the accuracy and reliability of this information."

(2) The law

46. The phrase "procedural mishap" which is the heading under which these complaints are brought, is borrowed, it seems, from Bingham LJ in Fauzia Wamar Din Bagga Khan v. Secretary of State for the Home Department [1987] Imm. A.R. 543, 555 :

"... If a procedural mishap occurs as a result of a misunderstanding, confusion, failure of communication, or even perhaps inefficiency, and the result is to deny justice to an applicant, I should be very sorry to hold that the remedy of judicial review was not available...."

47. Paragraph 57 of the proposed re-re-amendments is headed "Procedural Mishap". What is alleged is that there has been a corruption of evidence, whether deliberately or not; and that that corruption has affected the decisions or may have affected the decisions made. The grounds allege that "where material relied upon by a decision maker is inaccurate or distorts material facts, a decision made in reliance of such material is liable to be quashed". The cases cited in the body of the proposed re-re-amendments are R. v. Leyland Justices, Ex parte Hawthorn [1979] QB 283; Secretary of State for the Home Department, Ex parte Al-Mehdawi [1990] 1 AC 876; and R. v. The Bolton Justices, Ex parte Scally [1991] 1 QB 537. Al-Mehdawi apart, the cases in this category are cases in which the prosecuting authority failed to divulge highly material information, which quite obviously deprived a defendant of a defence, or of the chance to deploy material information in his defence. They are cases where the tribunal of fact has not been guilty of error, or itself party to a breach of natural justice but where the conduct of a third party has led to that result. The conduct of the third party has, in these cases, been, though not fraudulent, classified as analogous to fraud.

48. But that is not to say that whenever, even in non-criminal cases, there can be shown a mistake of fact in the decision-making process or a non-fraudulent misrepresentation that that then founds a ground for relief from the court in the exercise of its supervisory jurisdiction.

49. In this particular case, and for reasons which I have provided, it is not now open to the applicants to canvass allegations that statements were not read back, or that read back was perfunctory, or that there were threats of violence or other intimidation. In so far as it is alleged that there are inaccuracies in the material presented to Mr Choy or misrepresentations of what was said, it seems to me not apt to call this "procedural mishap" of the type for which the courts have, in the cited cases, granted relief. The principles established by such cases are these :

(i) Fraud, collusion, and perjury and analogous conduct provide grounds for judicial review even where there is no error on the part of the tribunal or decision maker.

(ii) ".... a challenge may also lie when unfairness in the conduct of proceedings results from some failure on the prosecutor's part even when no one has been guilty of fraud or dishonesty; that failure itself may be regarded as analogous to fraud." (See R. v. Criminal Injuries Compensation Board, Ex parte A. [1997] 3 WLR 776 at 793 per Simon Brown LJ.) However, in circumstances other than criminal or quasi-criminal proceedings, innocent misrepresentation of a material fact by a mere witness will not of itself render a decision unfair. "So to hold would go a great deal further than any of the authorities to which we were referred .... The ability of the court to review judicially a decision reached entirely properly by a tribunal because of circumstances external to the tribunal but affecting that decision must be closely confined." (Per Peter Gibson LJ in R. v. Criminal Injuries Compensation Board, Ex parte A. at page 799.) It has been suggested that it is the prosecution cases which "represent the emergence of a head of review separate from the traditional grounds of illegality, irrationality and procedural impropriety, since they are not founded upon any error of the decision maker".

Furthermore, ".... non-fraudulent misrepresentation is an everyday occurrence in administrative proceedings; it is hard to reconcile intervention by the court on such grounds alone with the constitutional imperative that Parliament has entrusted the finding of facts to the statutory decision-maker ...." (See Supperstone and Goudie "Judicial Review" 2nd Edition at 6.13, footnote 1.)

50. I doubt, in the circumstances, that the attack can properly be mounted under the Scally/Al-Mehdawi head of "procedural mishap". In any event, what is alleged here is not error by a third party, but error by the decision maker based on information collated by or on behalf of the decision maker. I do not think it open to the Director to hide behind errors of his officers and say that he, the Director, is the decision maker :

"I would wish to reserve to a case where the point is taken whether the Home Secretary can plead ignorance of what the Metropolitan Police have done .... Both are executive limbs of the state and it is arguable that in a real, as well as a constitutional sense, the state cannot be heard to say that its left hand does not know what its right hand is doing."

(See In re Schmidt [1995] 1 AC 339, 355.)

51. That said, the rules of natural justice do not render a decision invalid on the mere basis, in itself that, the decision maker or his advisers makes a mistake of fact. Only if the reasons given for the decision disclosed irrationality, illegality or procedural impropriety can the decision be open to judicial review. (See Lord Templeman in R. v. Independent Television Commission, ex parte TSW Broadcasting Limited, unreported, 26th March 1992.)

52. Although in Secretary of State for Education and Service v Tameside Metropolitan Borough Council [1977] AC 1014, Lord Wilberforce said (at page 1047) :

"In many statutes a minister or other authority is given a discretion any power and in these cases the court's power to review any exercise of the discretion, though still real, is limited. In these cases it is said that the courts cannot substitute their opinion for that of the administer : they can interfere on such grounds as that the administrator has acted right outside his powers, or outside the purpose of the act, or unfair, or upon an incorrect basis of fact. But there is no universal rule as to the principles on which the exercise of the discretion may be reviewed : The statute or title to statute must be individually looked at."

that has been qualified :

"... we cannot believe that by the phrase 'upon an incorrect basis of fact' Lord Wilberforce intended to introduce a new and independent head of challenge to executive decisions. Of course a mistake of fact can vitiate a decision where the act is a condition precedent to the exercise of jurisdiction, or where the fact is the only evidential basis for a decision, or where the fact was a matter which expressly or impliedly had to be taken into account. Outside those categories we do not accept that the decision can be flawed in this court, which is not an appellate tribunal, upon the ground of mistake of fact."

(See R. v. London Residuary Body ex parte ILEA, The Times, 24th July 1987.)

"Judicial review does not issue merely because a decision maker has made a mistake and it is not permissible to probe the advice received by the decision maker or to require particulars or to administer interrogatories or to cross-examine in order to discover the existence of a mistake by the decision maker or the advisers of the decision maker. An applicant for judicial review must show more than a mistake on the part of the decision maker or his advisers. Where a decision is made in good faith following a proper procedure and as a result of conscientious consideration, an applicant for judicial review is not entitled to relief save on the grounds established by Lord Greene MR in [Wednesbury]."

(See R. v. Independent Television Commission ex parte TSW Broadcasting Limited [1996] JR 185, 192.)

53. None of this is to say that errors of fact will never successfully found ground for relief. Such error may constitute a failure to take into account a relevant fact or the taking into account of an irrelevant fact. But if an error of fact is to play a part in judicial review, it must be material to the decision, and must be something established unassailably as erroneous (see Nguyen Ho & Others v. Director of Immigration [1991] 1 HKLR 576); and the courts in judicial review do not normally themselves engage upon exercises of primary fact finding (see R. v. Secretary of State for Home Affairs Ex parte Harrison [1997] JR 118). I also note that in those 'procedural mishap' cases, to which I have referred, where the courts were prepared to entertain review under this head, the errors or omissions were germane to the "heart of the case" (Ex parte A., page 784); ".... where the total apparatus of the prosecution had failed to carry out its duty ...." (R. v. Liverpool Crown Court, Ex parte Roberts [1986] Crim LR 622); and where, for example, the corrupt process was such as to deny those charged with offences of a complete defence to the charge (see Ex parte Scally).

(3) These particular cases

54. When studying and listening to the submissions upon the procedural mishap point in the course of this interlocutory application, one might be forgiven for assuming that it is the disparities upon which the decision making process concentrated and relied. The fact, however, is that the length and detail of argument about them has distorted the place they in fact assumed and that the significance of the procedural mishap/mistake of fact point is exaggerated. I have spent considerable time studying the papers and the history of the decision making process as revealed by the evidence, the facts asserted by the ten applicants, and the analysis of their cases by Mr Choy, and in my judgment the alleged contradictions played, in fact, an ancillary rather than the central role. What played the decisive role was the judgment made about country condition evidence as that reflected upon each applicant's contentions, as well as the information received from the authorities on the Mainland about what happened to individual applicants. The short point is that I simply cannot see, in the event, that the exercise upon which Mr Dykes now invites me to embark will make any difference; in other words, I am satisfied that determination as to credibility will not be shown to be clearly wrong by reason of these suggested errors.

55. In his affidavit of 22nd November 1997, Mr Choy spends the bulk of a very long affirmation dealing with country condition evidence, and only late in that affirmation does he turn to ten individual cases where specific facts have been put forward. He says :

"Much of the answer to this general factual claim lies in the inferences that can be drawn from the facts of China's action with UNHCR in providing assistance in respect of the 286,000 or so Indo-Chinese from Vietnam, conditions in China .... and the general facts relating to protection and settlement. All such evidence may be loosely described as 'country condition evidence' .....

However I have summarised what was in fact put before the decision maker in each of the ten cases...."

It is evident from the reasons given in individual summaries that he relies predominantly not on the inconsistencies in accounts given by the applicants but on the inconsistency between their assertions of non-registration and settlement on the one hand, and, on the other, assurances and evidence from the Mainland authorities.

56. So, for example, the case of Tran Hoa Buu. He refers to the fact that when he first came to Hong Kong, he said that he had been registered or settled at the Hua Shi Forestry Farm. However, it is not so much the assertion that an admission of registration had been made that carries the day against Tran, but the fact that the Mainland authorities had informed Mr Choy that the applicant had been registered in Beihai, and also "I believed from country condition evidence that they were registered". So, too, for the account of what happened on his return from Hong Kong in January 1995, Mr Choy believes what he was told by the Chinese authorities.

57. In Nghiem Kiet's case, it is true that Mr Choy refers to claims in 1991 that were "very different" but again :

"country condition information is such that I am satisfied that a young boy with his grandmother arriving at Dong Xing and Fang Cheng in September 1979 .... must have been caught up in arrangements then in place to .... settle refugees. Both Dong Xing and Fang Cheng were centres of Chinese activity in resettling refugees at the time ... I do not find details of the present claim credible .... So many resources had been mobilised by China to resettle exactly this kind of refugee on exactly this kind of resettlement farm".

58. So, too, in the case of Lai Yen. Whilst there is indeed an allegation in Mr Choy's November 1997 affirmation of disparities and accounts being materially at odds with previous claims, it is nonetheless clear that he relies heavily on :

"the information from China ... that her family were registered in Hainan. I accept the reliability of this information. In considering her claims I considered the country condition evidence. Since China has verified her residence in Hainan, her claims to the Director had not credibility and were materially at odds with her own previous claims".

59. So, also, in the case of Ho Quay Nguyen. Mr Choy, in November 1997, sets out a number of (suggested) contradictions between Mr Ho's 1997 story and his 1991 story, and concludes that his credibility is zero. But he ends by reciting the fact that in August 1997, the Mainland authorities confirmed that Ho had been identified as settled at Qiaxueling Overseas Chinese Tea farm in Gaungdong, and Mr Choy says that he accepts that information.

"In the context of this information, I now find that he was fully settled with the benefits of a refugee ... including household registration. He never revealed his address to anyone on behalf of the Director since arriving here in 1991."

60. In Mr Nguyen's case, it is evident that Mr Choy relies heavily on extraneous checks of veracity, in particular that

"the evidence from China is very clear : in Gaunxi Mr Zhiang's records [Mr Zhiang is a Mainland official] are very thorough and complete ... I accept the evidence from China and am sure that Nguyen was not registered at the Fang Cheng Refugee Centre".

And again :

"the evidence about China's refugee programme ... shows that he would have been a priority category for settlement as a young unaccompanied minor".

61. In the case of Mr Truong Chi Huy, he had not yet been verified by the time Mr Choy made his decision and he does rely on disparities in accounts, but again, there is cardinal reliance upon other extraneous factors :

"China has checked his claim of settlement in Dong Mei Farm with negative result.

His claim that he languished in Fang Cheng Reception Centre is out of line with conditions in the border area in 1979 .... inconsistent with clear information about what was happening at that time. The events of 1993 in Beihai are well known to me."

As for the suggestion of refoulement, all country condition evidence he says is against that suggestion.

"For the authorities in China it has been a matter of huge investment and national commitment to protect the refugee population."

62. Mr Hoang, in respect of whom no specific allegation in the proposed re-re-amendments have been made, is said by Mr Choy to have made a number of inconsistent statements, but there again :

"Leaving aside both earlier statements [on a point about the fate of his parents] to the opposite effect, the evidence concerning country condition evidence is such that I found I wholly disbelieved this claim."

63. Ta Minh Hieu : the allegation in the proposed re-re-amendment is that his arrival statement was incomplete and inaccurate and that he was shouted at and intimidated, and that, in the screening, important information about refoulement was omitted. Mr Choy does refer in his affirmation to discrepancies in accounts but there is again much in the credibility assessment exercise that depends upon Mr Choy's expertise on country condition evidence. For example, on the question of refoulement :

"In late 1993, this youth would have been just 17 years old. It would have been obvious to any PSB official that he had been in China as refugee since he was a small child. It would have been obvious he did not speak Vietnamese. I did not believe that he had been refouled as claimed. All the known information points against this."

64. Mr Doan Cuu De wishes to complain by way of an amendment that his arrival statement was an edited version of what he told the immigration officer and that errors were made about his family and his education and registration. In this particular case, I note that Mr Choy has already, in November 1997, addressed that very contention in that he states in his affirmation dated 27th November 1997 :

"In April 1997, he claimed that he had not given full details or correct details of his life history.... that is why his account was so different from that given in April 1993."

65. What is therefore proposed are amendments which will carry this case into months of evidence and debate about who said what, when and to whom about certain specific facts amongst a host of specific facts, when in reality the overwhelming aspect of the assessment by Mr Choy is based upon the response of Mainland officials to individual claims, combined with country condition evidence. The case in relation to discrepancies in individual statements is but an addendum to Mr Choy's evidence. It is now sought to make it a mainstream and central matter.

66. I do not in the circumstances think this court should travel this course, or be enticed into a detailed examination of suggested errors of the kind which I have itemized. I believe it to be sufficiently clear in the present case that the decisions stood on a broader basis than the particular points of suggested error, and that even if error were shown, the decisions on credibility will stand in any event on the footing of other facts which the decision maker has properly taken into account. Therefore the application to introduce the re-re-amendments sought in the proposed paragraphs 52B, 52C and 57 is rejected.

The 'bogus reasons' amendments

67. The proposed paragraphs 55 and 56 seek to put forward an argument along the following lines : that the evidence filed by Mr Choy shows and concedes that he did not interview any of the applicants, and that that was done by others who then came to a conclusion about their credibility and who made recommendations. The procedure which was adopted is summarised in my September 1998 judgment in this case (reported at [1998] 2 HKLRD 789, 842). Mr Choy's case is that he considered and studied each case and each recommendation and made his own decision. It is, in my judgment, not arguable that if the procedure which he says was adopted, was indeed adopted, that it can constitute an unlawful delegation of his decision making function.

68. But the argument, or proposed argument, goes further than that, and it is that it cannot conceivably be the case that Mr Choy has considered the papers to the extent which he has suggested. The recommendations made to him by more junior officers have not been disclosed, though the applicants seek their disclosure. It would appear that Mr Choy has kept no note of his own in any analysis of the individual cases. The task, it is said, upon which he would have had to embark in order to examine each case as he suggests, would have been Herculean in the time frame in which interviews took place and decisions were made, and, furthermore, it is said that Mr Choy has given wholly contradictory evidence about his decision making process, a fact that is said to show that the full reasons he has provided in the case of the applicants are not the true reasons for his decisions, and constitute instead an ex post facto rationalisation by him. That alone is ground for judicial review, and the circumstances as a whole are such, it is argued, as to suggest that the decisions can only in reality have been taken by the immigration officers and not by him.

69. In his affirmation in February 1998, Mr Choy said that what was passed on by an interviewing officer were screening interview notes which contained the full record of what the applicant claimed and a summary of the case and recommendations in respect of findings and decisions. Together with the screening interview notes was any relevant arrival or other statement or material that had been considered by the immigration officer. He went on to say :

"In all cases I read the screening interview notes and other statements and decided what facts I considered were established and made the decision in accordance with my findings. I did not always agree with all the comments and suggested findings of those considering it before me, but in every case I endorsed the conclusion that they recommended to me. I did not feel bound to do so and that is why I considered what were the correct findings before finalising and effecting the decision. All of the officers involved in this decision making process were trained in country conditions in China relating to the reception and settlement and refugees from Vietnam from 1978 to the present time."

70. In an affirmation in April 1998 by the applicants' solicitors, he says in this particular regard - and this is perhaps illustrative of the ambit of judicial review as perceived by him :

"The applicants intend to put Mr Choy to full proof over his assertion, ..."

and then sets out suggested reasons why Mr Choy should not be believed - for example :

"I believe that more than six months of full time work would be needed for the type of detailed anlaysis that Mr Choy purports on affirmation to have made in respect of each applicant."

He complains that Mr Choy has exhibited no contemporaneous notes, and in argument before me, the point is made that the applicants have not had the advantage of seeing any summaries he, Mr Choy, made nor the recommendations of the individual immigration officers. The application for discovery which awaits this court's decision on the application to re-re-amend will, I have no doubt, embrace those recommendations and those summaries.

71. In his May 1998 affirmation, Mr Choy answers this suggestion by saying :

"It is untrue to suggest that my words in my first affirmation are a claim that I spent hours analysing each decision and hundreds of hours in making all decisions. In all but very few cases the matter was prepared for me to the point that all I had to do after some reading was to consider a few findings in the form of recommendations and assess the extent to which I shared them."

This is said by the applicants to be in stark contradiction to Mr Choy's February 1998 affirmation; a contradiction which justifies the exercise upon which the applicants now wish to embark.

72. I do not, however, think that the evidence deployed by the applicants warrant that exercise. It may be that Mr Brooks, the applicants' solicitor, finds it difficult to see how the decision making process of which Mr Choy speaks can have been completed in the time, with the thoroughness he suggests. That said, Mr Choy is an immigration expert, steeped in the subject matter with which he was dealing and thoroughly familiar with the history of this group of applicants. On the evidence before this court, the papers which were presented to him - screening forms in particular and, no doubt, minutes and recommendations, were in standard format with which he was or would soon become, by reason of the very extent of the exercise, very familiar. The essential points to look for would have been quite quickly identifiable, and in a significant number of cases, the fact the applicant had been verified by the Mainland authorities would be a fact standing out like a sore thumb and a fact which would have almost certainly carried the day against the applicant. I am informed that somewhere between one-quarter and one-third of all applicants fell into this category. Mr Choy states that :

"The system had to be set up, if it was to be workable, so that after the reading described ... I could formulate my findings of fact quickly by reference to the recommended findings of others."

Put in the context of these considerations I do not believe that the assertions by Mr Choy are on their face incredible as the applicants suggested, and I am not, in such circumstances, inclined to permit an opening up of this vast issue. To do so would unnecessarily give steam to the infinite process of contestation upon which the applicants seem bent, and against which the courts must, in my judgment, stand firm.

73. The application to introduce paragraphs 55 and 56 is therefore rejected.

Summary of Decisions

74. The application to re-re-amend is allowed to the following extent, namely, to introduce the following new paragraphs :

Paragraph 50A :though the issue is already decided so that no further argument upon it arises.
Paragraph 52A :this issue, too, has been determined, and is not open to further debate.
Paragraph 53 :all proposed re-re-amendments are permitted; in other words, the insertion of the words "and/or in bad faith" and of sub-paragraphs (8) - (12) inclusive.
Paragraph 54 :the re-re-amendment is allowed although no further argument arises upon it.

All other applications to re-re-amend are refused.

75. There remain other ancillary applications to determine, and I shall reserve the question of costs of this application until their determination.

(F. Stock)
Judge of the Court of First Instance,
High Court

Representation:

Mr Philip Dykes, S.C., and Mr Matthew C.S. Chong, inst'd by M/s Pam Baker & Co, for the Applicants

Mr William Marshall, S.C., and Mr Wesley Wong, inst'd by the Department of Justice, for the Respondent

18307-EN-1998-09-25

TRAN THANG LAM AND OTHERS v. THE DIRECTOR OF IMMIGRATION

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HCAL000080A/1997

HCAL80/97

IN THE HIGH COURT OF THE

HONG KONG SPECIAL ADMINISTRATIVE REGION

COURT OF FIRST INSTANCE

ADMINISTRATIVE LAW LIST NO. 80 OF 1997

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BETWEEN
TRAN THANG LAM AND OTHERSApplicants
AND
THE DIRECTOR OF IMMIGRATIONRespondent

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Coram : Stock, J. in Court

Dates of hearing : 20, 21, 22, 24, 27, 28 and 29 July 1998

Date of handing down judgment : 25 September 1998

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J U D G M E N T

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1. This is an application for judicial review of decisions by the Director of Immigration in relation to 116 former residents of Vietnam who came to Hong Kong after they and their families had lived for some years in Mainland China.

2. In the course of 1997, the Director of Immigration classified each one as a 'refugee from Vietnam in China', permitted them to remain in Hong Kong as such, but then immediately ordered the removal of each to the Mainland. The applicants do not complain about the decision to classify them as refugees and to allow them to remain in Hong Kong, but they do complain about the decision to order their removal from Hong Kong. They say that the removal orders were unlawful.

I. BACKGROUND

History

3. There is a long history to this case, and this particular challenge is not the first which these applicants have amounted before the courts.

4. The applicants are all former residents of Vietnam. The youngest is now aged 19 and the oldest 63 years. The great majority were born in the 1960s and 1970s. They and their families in Hong Kong directly affected by this application number 258. They are all ethnic Chinese. During the late 1970s and the early 1980s - in the main between 1978 and 1980 - they all left Vietnam, at a time of hostility between Vietnam and the People's Republic of China ('PRC'). They were compelled to leave or felt themselves so compelled by circumstances in that country directly connected with prevailing attitudes to ethnic Chinese in Vietnam. When they left Vietnam, they all went to Mainland China ('the Mainland').

5. There they lived for some years before eventually they travelled to Hong Kong and sought to gain entry here. Almost all the applicants came by boat in 1993; although a couple came in 1989 and a handful in 1990 and 1991. It should be noted that before they came to Hong Kong none had lived on the Mainland for less than a decade: most of them had lived there for 13, 14 or 15 years before they came here. Their hope was that once in Hong Kong they would be permitted to remain here as Vietnam refugees pending resettlement elsewhere, though certainly not Mainland China.

6. Upon arrival in Hong Kong, a tape was played to them which said that illegal immigrants were not welcome here, but that if they chose to remain they would be screened to see whether they had refugee status, and that if they were not refugees they would promptly be repatriated to Vietnam. The alternative was that after reprovisioning they could leave Hong Kong waters in their boats. They chose to stay for rescreening. They claimed that in China they were never settled or accepted, nor were they accorded the rights that ought to be accorded to refugees. They had, they said, been denied the same rights as Chinese nationals, such as the right to work and education and registration; and they said that there was a risk of them being forced back to Vietnam; so that they remained refugees without full protection in a third country.

7. But in the event they were not screened for refugee status. The view was taken that the screening procedures then in place for refugees from Vietnam were not intended for those who had fled Vietnam but had spent many years living in another country before coming to Hong Kong. They were classified by the authorities here as "Ex China Vietnamese Illegal Immigrants" ("ECVIIs") - an administrative classification - and under the provisions of section 11 of the Immigration Ordinance ("the Ordinance"), refused permission to land.

8. They were then ordered to be detained pursuant to powers conferred by section 18 of the Ordinance, pending their removal from Hong Kong. However, a person detained under section 18 had to be removed from Hong Kong within two months of the making of the removal order, although to that requirement there was an exception, that if he was a former resident of Vietnam, that time limit did not apply. The statutory provision permitting that exception in relation to former Vietnam residents lapsed in 1993. Since it was the intention of the Director to remove the applicants to the Mainland and because that was a complicated exercise which was going to take more than two months in any one case, he used the provisions of section 13D of the Ordinance which permits detention - without a specific time limit - of any resident or former resident of Vietnam after a decision to refuse him permission to remain in Hong Kong and pending his removal from Hong Kong.

9. However, section 13D(3) required that where a person was detained after refusal of permission to remain under Part IIIA of the Ordinance, the Director was obliged to serve upon him a notice which explained his right to apply to the Refugee Status Review Board ("RSRB") for a review of the decision that he may not remain in Hong Kong as a refugee. The Director did not serve such a notice on any of the applicants. H e proposed to remove the applicants without the service of such a notice, for he took the view that he had never screened them in as refugees or out as non-refugees, and that given their lengthy intervening sojourn on the Mainland, they were not entitled to such screening.

10. Arrangements were then made for the ECVIIs to be returned to the Mainland. The present applicants were not the only ECVIIs in Hong Kong. At one stage, Mainland authorities wanted to verify the particulars before accepting ECVIIs back. Those verified were returned. Others, including the present applicants were then interviewed here by Mainland officials in late 1994. In March 1995, the Mainland agreed to take even the unverified ones back. In June 1995, some of those were returned. A number of the applicants - 16 in all - were in fact returned to the Mainland but have since 'double backed' to Hong Kong. Most of the present applicants had not been removed to the Mainland by the time judicial review proceedings were launched; proceedings that eventually found their way to the Privy Council.

The First Judicial Review

11. In July 1995, the applicants were granted leave to apply for judicial review. A number of decisions were challenged in those proceedings, particularly the refusal to make a determination of their claim for refugee status. They failed at first instance, as well as in the Court of Appeal. Those courts were united in the view that, on the facts of the case, the applicants had been denied permission to remain as refugees under section 13A of the Ordinance - the section which makes provision for the admission into Hong Kong of those previously resident in Vietnam either pending determination of their claim for refugee status or as refugees pending their resettlement elsewhere. Since that was the case, and since they had been detained under section 13D, it followed as a matter of construction that they were entitled to have their cases reconsidered by the RSRB. That avenue had been denied them, so prima facie they were then entitled to relief, but the relief was refused as a matter of discretion.

12. The case, entitled Nguyen Tuan Cuong and Others v. Director of Immigration and Others went on appeal to the Privy Council. The appeal was, by a majority, allowed. (The Privy Council's judgment is reported at [1997]1 WLR 68). The decision of the majority turned, in the event, upon the question of the exercise of the court's discretion. They agreed that the facts were such that the applicants had sought permission under section 13A to remain as refugees in Hong Kong pending resettlement elsewhere; that permission had been refused and that there had been therefore a duty to serve them with notices about their rights of review. On the question of discretion, their Lordships took the view that it was not inevitable that the applicants would all be sent back to China, and :

".... that it was at least possible that if these applicants obtained a review, the chance of some of them being resettled elsewhere than in China might well attract a Review Board, as it has in other countries such as Australia. On the material before their Lordships a number of the applicants may have relatives in countries other than China where they could obtain ultimate refuge." (page 77)

13. The minority (Lord Goff and Lord Hoffman) dissented, not on the matter of discretion, but on the construction of the Ordinance, and in particular of section 13D(3) - the section which required service of a Board notice. They were of the opinion that the power to detain former residents of Vietnam pending removal was not restricted to those who had been refused permission to remain here on the grounds that they did not have refugee status; but extended to those who were refused such permission on grounds :

"..... which had nothing to do with whether or not they had the status of refugees from Vietnam." (page 82),

so that removal could be effected under section 13D(1) even if the decision to refuse them permission to land or remain had been taken under some section which had nothing to do with Vietnamese migrants, but rather was directed at the case of ordinary illegal immigrants. The history behind, and wording of, section 13D(3) showed that the requirement to issue a notice was only directed at those who had been refused permission under section 13A.

The Order

14. Still, by reason of the view of the majority, the appeal was allowed, and an order was made in the terms set out in the minority judgment in the Court of Appeal. That order was as follows :

"an order of mandamus requiring the Director of Immigration to consider the applicant's claim to remain in HK as a refugee in accordance with Part IIIA of the Immigration Ordinance;

an order of mandamus requiring the Director to notify the applicants of his decision regarding their claim to remain in HK as a refugee, and if adverse, to serve or cause to be served a notice on the applicants in accordance with section 13D(3)."

The Advice of the Privy Council was handed down on 21st November 1996.

Screening

15. The Director then embarked upon the procedure required by that order, namely, the consideration of each applicant's "claim to remain in Hong Kong as a refugee". This was to be a complex exercise, not least because the factual situation was so different from that with which the mass of earlier Vietnamese refugee cases had been concerned.

16. The Director obtained legal advice about the ramifications of the Privy Council decision and then set about the exercise. Since the applicants had been detained "pending removal", the Director, or rather her authorised delegate, Mr P.T. Choy, Assistant Director of Immigration, authorised their detention instead under section 13D(1) of the Ordinance "pending a decision". That was done on 9th January 1997. Then, immigration officers were given instructions about the case, including details of those aspects of such considerations as the Director considered would be appropriate to the decision making process; interview questionnaires were drawn; and the applicants were interviewed.

II. The DECISIONS and The ISSUES

The Notices of Determination

17. In due course Mr Choy, on behalf of the Director, made a decision; or, rather, he made two decisions. They were the same in the case of each applicant. Each was served with a notice of determination. These notices were served on various dates between June and October 1997, the terms of which were the same in each case. The document is vital to the determination of this case. This is what it says :

" You have been examined by an Immigration Officer to determine whether you should be permitted to remain in Hong Kong as a refugee/refugees pending resettlement elsewhere. Having taken account of all the matters you have put forward in support of your claim, the Director is satisfied that you are a refugee/refugees from Vietnam in China who have been detained under Part IIIA and therefore permits you to remain in Hong Kong as a refugee/refugees under section 13A(1) of the Immigration Ordinance Cap. 115.

After examination by the Immigration Officer the Director also finds that :-

(a) you were granted a durable solution and protection in China in terms of Paragraph (e) of Conclusion 58 of the Executive Committee of the High Commissioner's Programme;

(b) you have moved in an irregular manner from China to Hong Kong;

(c) China will accept you back to China and will protect you there against refoulement to Vietnam and will treat you in accordance with basic human standards as required by Paragraph (f) of the said Conclusion 58; and

(d) In terms of the judgment of the majority of the Privy Council in Nguyen Tuan Cuong and others you have lost entitlement to consideration in Hong Kong for resettlement overseas other than in China by return to China.

In consequence of the above findings the Director has ordered your removal to China under S.13E of the Immigration Ordinance and your detention pending that removal under S.32(1)(a) of the Immigration Ordinance."

18. So whilst each applicant was told that he or she was permitted to remain as a refugee from Vietnam in China, that news was scant comfort, because conveyed by the same letter was the other news that he or she was to be detained and removed to China.

19. Once again, no notice was served on any of the applicants under section 13D(3) suggesting a right of review by the RSRB. The Director took the view that, as a matter of law, no review was available to the applicants. They had been permitted to remain under section 13A(1) of the Ordinance as refugees pending resettlement, and since the requirement to serve a section 13D(3) notice only arises upon a refusal of permission to remain, there was no place for the service of a notice. And because no notice was served, the right to apply for a review under section 13F was not engaged.

20. It is common ground that there is no right to appeal against, or right to seek a review of, a removal order under section 13E.

21. The decision to permit the applicants to remain in Hong Kong as refugees is not challenged in these proceedings. What is challenged is the legality of the decision to make the removal orders under section 13E.

22. To complete the picture, I should mention allied proceedings, which do not bear upon any matter of law which I am required to decide. After their detention following the removal order, the applicants applied for the issue of a writ of habeas corpus, challenging the legality of their detention, and the basis of that action was the length of time they had been held. They were successful at first instance, unsuccessful when that decision went before the Court of Appeal, and unsuccessful again upon the recent determination of the Court of Final Appeal (FACV No.2 of 1998). It follows that return to detention would be lawful, but they are not in fact in detention, for the Director has given an undertaking that she would not seek to re-detain them until after the delivery of judgment in this application.

These Proceedings

23. Leave to apply for judicial review was granted by Keith J on 15th September 1997, and there were before him subsequent interlocutory applications which need not concern us, save that leave was given on a number of occasions for amendments to be made to the application.

24. The decisions in respect of which relief is sought are the decisions to order removal to the Mainland of all the applicants, and the decisions to detain the applicants pending their removal to the Mainland. The applicants seek orders of certiorari to quash the Director's decisions. There is also an application which relates to a decision of the Secretary for Security contained in a letter dated 27th June 1997 that the applicants who have Vietnamese spouses and who have not lived on the Mainland might be removed to the Mainland without their children, and that those spouses and children might be removed to Vietnam. I am told that that decision is not to be implemented, and that I am now not asked to make a determination about it.

Burgeoning Grounds

25. The grounds framed in the notice of application have, as a result of amendments made since they were first filed in August 1997, burgeoned, and the volume of evidence filed by the applicants and the respondent grown exponentially, so that by the time this matter first came before me earlier this year on an interlocutory application, I was presented with something in excess of 4,000 pages of evidence. I pause to comment that there must be very few judicial review applications indeed which could possibly justify that amount of evidence, and it was not justified in this case. It is unnecessary and wasteful to add such a burden to the court's task. There is also a duty on those acting for parties in such cases to denude affidavits of detailed legal submissions - and there have been reams of that from the respondent - and to keep them to the bare factual minimum truly required. The relevance of this piece of procedural history is not merely to intimate disapproval, but to set the scene for the dismantling of the issues which I have sought to effect.

26. The grounds, as they developed in the ever expanding application, contained a significant number of complaints. At first, and putting the matter very broadly, they were :

(1) That the decision to send the applicants back to the Mainland did not constitute an offer of resettlement.

(2) It was not lawful for the Director to make an order under section 13E unless an offer of resettlement had first been made but then unreasonably rejected.

(3) That the evidence placed before the Director demonstrated that on the Mainland the applicants had not been accorded minimum rights to which refugees are entitled under the Convention and Protocol relating to the Status of Refugees, and there was no material upon which the Director could conclude that it was consistent with the Convention and with the Ordinance to return the applicants to the Mainland.

(4) That each of the reasons for the Director's decisions as articulated in the Notices of Determination is flawed, so that she had taken into consideration irrelevant matters. It was said that Conclusion 58 was not relevant. The Ordinance contemplates relocation of refugees where they will be resettled according to Convention standards, and not relocation to a place where they will be afforded merely basic measures of protection; a standard, in other words, lower than that contemplated by Convention obligations. The Ordinance's requirements which are self evidently part of domestic law must prevail over the guidelines of Conclusion 58, which is not.

(5) That the Director had misconstrued the effect of the Privy Council's decision, and in doing so had wrongly fettered her discretion, in particular by shutting her mind to resettlement of any of the refugees to countries other than China.

(6) That that if Conclusion 58 was relevant the Director had misconstrued the effect of Conclusion 58 in that she read it as requiring a lesser measure of protection than that conferred by the Convention, whereas it can only properly be read and implemented as being consistent with the level envisaged by the Convention. In other words, 'basic human standards' can only mean the minimum rights specified by the Convention. In any event, there was no evidence on which the Director could conclude that Conclusion 58 applied to the applicants, or that the applicants had been provided with a durable solution, or that they had been provided with asylum as refugees.

(7) That since the evidence was that the applicants were denied minimum Convention rights on the Mainland, the criteria required by Conclusion 58, on any construction, were not satisfied, and that the applicants had a reasonable excuse to refuse an offer of re-entry to the Mainland.

27. The first tranche of amendments added complaints of procedural unfairness. Such complaints were that :

(1) Matters detrimental to their cases were not put to the applicants before an adverse decision was reached, even though they were matters upon which the Director ultimately relied when making the order under section 13E. These were matters about country conditions, and alleged inconsistencies in various statements which had been made by the applicants at various stages.

(2) Mr Choy was predisposed to disbelieve the applicants, and that in the circumstances no fair determination could be made; this primarily because it was Mr Choy who had been involved in all previous decisions relating to these applicants; it was not necessary for him to be the person designated once more; he never interviewed any of the applicants; he relied exclusively on his own understanding of country conditions; and that his predisposition is evident from the very fact that not one of the applicants was successful in his or her objective.

28. Then there was an application to re-re-amend the application for leave and the notice of motion; as well as an application for the discovery of documents, and for an order for cross examination of deponents of affirmations filed on behalf of the respondent. And there was an application by the respondent that a swathe of evidence filed by the applicants be struck out. All these applications came on before me in June this year, with the hearing of the substantive application already set for July.

29. The application to re-re-amend was to allege bad faith on the part of the decision maker as well as to deploy further allegations of procedural impropriety. It is intended to allege :

(1) that those representing the applicants were denied the opportunity to review interview notes and prior statements in order to make submissions to the Director on behalf of the applicants before a decision was made.

(2) that records of interview and statements have been re-written by immigration officers without the knowledge of the applicants, and there are allegations of abusive conduct by some interviewing officers.

(3) that the procedure adopted was a deliberate ploy by which the applicants were deprived of the opportunity to canvass their case before any review or appellate forum.

(4) that the decisions made by Mr Choy were made in effect at the direction of the interviewing officers; and that reasons now given by him for his decisions were not on his mind when he made his decisions, but are in fact an ex post facto rationalisation.

30. The respondent's interlocutory application, filed on a few days notice, was for the striking out of 16 affirmations as being irrelevant.

31. It was evident that if these various interlocutory applications were to be properly determined, they would require lengthy submissions, and the examination of voluminous evidence. This did not strike me as the most efficient or cost effective way forward. There were a number of issues, central to the case, which could be argued and determined without recourse to three quarters of the documents that had been spawned, and which might or might not dispose of the proceedings as a whole. If they did not dispose of the entire proceedings, then at least the resolution of the outstanding applications to amend and strike out would lend themselves to easier resolution, and a double rehearsal of the full background and facts avoided.

The Five Questions

32. I therefore ordered that the interlocutory applications be adjourned sine die, and that the hearing of the substantive application set down for July 1998 be restricted to a trial of the following issues and such other or allied issues as the court might at the substantive hearing permit to be canvassed :

"1. If a person is classified as a 'refugee from Vietnam in China' by the [Director ('DOI')] when making a decision under s.13A1)(a) Immigration Ordinance, Cap. 115 what are the legal consequences of that decision? In particular:

1) Is the DOI bound to permit that person to remain in Hong Kong pending resettlement elsewhere? What does 'pending resettlement elsewhere' mean? Does it mean providing that person an opportunity to seek resettlement in a third country?

2) May the DOI, as in this case, immediately after granting such a person permission to remain in Hong Kong under s.13A(1)(a) Immigration Ordinance, Cap. 115 make a removal order in respect of such a person?

2. Are any of the reasons given by the DOI for making the removal orders under s.13E(1) Immigration Ordinance, Cap. 115 bad as taking into account irrelevant considerations, or failing to take into account relevant considerations, or resulting from a misconstruction of law or of documents relied upon? In particular:

1) Has the DOI misconstrued the meaning, effect and application of Conclusion 58?

2) Has the DOI failed to apply the Convention when it, or parts of it, should have been applied?

3) Has the DOI misconstrued or misapplied the effect of the Privy Council decision? If not, has the DOI, when applying it ignored relevant provisions of the Immigration Ordinance, Cap. 115.

3. Was the DOI - whether through Mr Choy or immigration officers - required to put to the applicants country condition evidence or conclusions about country conditions before making a final determination about their status and what should happen to them?

4. Was the DOI - whether by Mr Choy or through immigration officers - required to provide the Applicants with copies of previous statements made by them (whether made upon arrival or later) which were used in the decision making process by the Director so as to enable the applicants to comment upon them, or to make such corrections as they proposed?

5. Was the DOI obliged to notify the Applicants of her proposed decision to make removal orders under section 13E(1)Immigration Ordinance, Cap. 115 and state the grounds, and provide documents relied upon, for making that decision so as to provide the Applicants with an opportunity to make representations against the making of the order?"

The issues were framed in consultation with counsel.

III. LEGISLATION and INTERNATIONAL INSTRUMENTS

The Ordinance

33.Section 4 empowers an immigration officer or an immigration assistant to examine any person on his arrival in Hong Kong, "or if he has reasonable cause for believing that such person landed in Hong Kong unlawfully, at any time". There is also a power conferred by that section to examine a person if the officer has reasonable cause to believe that a person is contravening a condition of stay.

34.Section 11 - upon examination under section 4, permission to land or remain may be given and an immigration officer may, on the other hand, refuse a person permission to land. Where permission to land or remain is given the immigration officer or an immigration assistant may impose a limit, and other conditions, of stay. Such conditions may by notice in writing be cancelled or varied. For the purposes of the Ordinance, references to Director includes the Deputy Director, any assistant director and any member of the Immigration Service of the rank of senior principal immigration officer.

35.Section 13 enables the Director to authorise any person who has landed unlawfully to remain in Hong Kong subject to such conditions of stay as he deems fit.

36.Section 19 gives power to the Director to make a removal order requiring a person to leave Hong Kong. The circumstances in which the Director may exercise that power are limited. They include the power to remove a person who has landed unlawfully or 'is contravening or has contravened a condition of stay'.

37. The regime for the treatment of residents or former residents of Vietnam is covered by Part IIIA of the Ordinance. The following provisions are central to this case :

Section 13A :

" (1) An immigration officer or a chief immigration assistant may permit any person-

(a) who was previously resident in Vietnam and who has been examined under section 4(1)(a); or

(b) who was born before 31 December 1982 and whose father or mother was previously resident in Vietnam and who has been examined under section 4(1)(b),

to remain in Hong Kong as a refugee pending his resettlement elsewhere.

(2) An immigrating officer or a chief immigration assistant may at any time by notice in writing to a Vietnamese refugee impose any condition of stay or any further condition of stay which may include-

(a) a limit of stay;

(b) a condition that such person shall reside in a refugee centre specified by an immigration officer or a chief immigration assistant and shall comply with any rules made under section 13C;

(c) a condition that such person shall not-

(i) take any employment, whether paid or unpaid;

(ii) establish or join in any business; or

(iii) become a student at a school, university or other educational institution.

(3) Every Vietnamese refugee who has been permitted to remain in Hong Kong whether before or after the commencement of the Immigration (Amendment) Ordinance 1981 (35 of 1981) shall be subject to a condition of stay that-

(a) if he is made an offer of resettlement elsewhere he shall not without reasonable excuse fail or refuse-

(i) to accept the offer; nor

(ii) to comply with any requirement necessary for the completion of the resettlement procedure;

(b) .....

(4) An immigration officer or a chief immigration assistant may at any time by notice in writing to a Vietnamese refugee-

(a) cancel any condition of stay in force in respect of such person;

(b) vary any condition of stay (other than a limit of stay) in force in respect of such person;

(c) vary any limit of stay in force in respect of such person by curtailing or enlarging the period during which such person may remain in Hong Kong.

(4A) Any Vietnamese refugee who remains in Hong Kong without the permission of an immigration officer or a chief immigration assistant beyond the period allowed by any limit of stay specified in any condition of stay in force in respect of him shall be deemed for the purposes of this Ordinance to have landed in Hong Kong unlawfully upon the expiration of such period."

"Vietnamese refugee" is defined by section 2 as a person who -

"(a) was previously resident in Vietnam; or

(aa) was born after 31 December 1982 and whose father or mother was previously resident in Vietnam; and

(b) is permitted to remain in Hong Kong as a refugee pending his resettlement elsewhere;"

Section 13D :

" (1) As from 2 July 1982 any resident or former resident of Vietnam who-

(a) arrives in Hong Kong not holding a travel document which bears an unexpired visa issued by or on behalf of the Director; and

(b) has not been granted an exemption under section 61(2),

may whether or not he has requested permission to remain in Hong Kong, be detained under the authority of the Director in such detention centre as an immigration officer may specify pending a decision to grant or refuse him permission to remain in Hong Kong or, after a decision to refuse him such permission, pending his removal from Hong Kong, and any child of such a person, whether or not he was born in Hong Kong and whether or not he has requested permission to remain in Hong Kong, may also be so detained, unless that child holds a travel document with such a visa or has been granted an exemption under section 61(2).

......

(2) Every person detained under this section shall be permitted all reasonable facilities to enable him to obtain any authorization required for entry to another state or territory or, whether or not he has obtained such authorization, to leave Hong Kong.

(3) Where a person is detained under subsection (1) after a decision under section 13A(1) to refuse him permission to remain in Hong Kong as a refugee, such person as the Director may authorize for the purpose shall serve on the detained person a notice in such form as the Director may specify notifying him of his right to apply for a review under section 13F(1)."

38. Section 13F relates to reviews by the RSRB. The subsections relevant to this application are these :

" (1) Any person on whom a notice is served under section 13D(3) may ..... apply to the Board to have the decision that he may not remain in Hong Kong as a refugee reviewed.

.......

(5) Upon the hearing of the review a Board shall make such decision as to the status of the appellant and as to his continued detention under section 13D(1) as it may think fit, being a decision which the Director might lawfully have made under this Ordinance, and the Director shall give effect to such decision.

(6) For the removal of doubt it is hereby declared that the making of an application under this section does not give the person by whom or on whose behalf it is made the right to land or remain in Hong Kong pending the decision of a Board on the application."

39.Section 32 makes provision for detention pending removal; and that applies to a removal order under section 19, as well as to an order, as in this case, under section 13E.

40.Section 53 plays some part in the arguments advanced in this case. It provides that :

" (1) Subject to subsection (8) any person aggrieved by a decision act or omission of any public officer taken, done or made in the exercise or performance of any powers, functions or duties under this Ordinance may by notice in writing lodged with the Chief Secretary object to that decision, act or omission;

...

(3) Any objection under subsection (1) shall be considered ... by the [Chief Executive] in Council."

41. Subsection (5) entitles the Chief Executive in Council to reverse or vary the decision reviewed; and subsection (7) declares that the lodging of an objection does not give the objector the right to remain in Hong Kong pending the decision of the Chief Executive in Council.

42. Subsection (8), however, excludes the right of objection in certain circumstances :

" No objection shall be made under this section -

...

(b) to a removal order made by the Director;

...

(e) to any decision in respect of which a right to apply to a Board under section 13F(1) has at any time subsisted; or

(f) to an order for the removal of a person from Hong Kong under section 13E; ..."

'Removal order' under section 53(8)(b) means one made under section 19 of the Ordinance.

43.Section 53A gives rights of appeal, on limited grounds, to the Immigration Tribunal from removal orders made under section 19. The grounds are either that the affected person has the right of abode in Hong Kong; or that at the date when the removal order was made he had the permission of the Director to remain in Hong Kong, and in such a case the appellant may not be removed until the determination of his appeal. If it be shown that he did indeed have the permission of the Director to remain at the date of the removal order, then the Tribunal is bound to allow the appeal.

International instruments and the development of allied local legislation

44. The United Nations Convention relating to the Status of Refugees was adopted by the United Nations in 1951. It includes a definition of 'refugees', makes provision for the treatment of refugees, and in particular requires adherence to the principle of non-refoulement, by which is meant that no state party shall return a refugee against his will to the country where he or she fears persecution.

45. To cater for the emergence of new refugee situations, there emerged a Protocol relating to the Status of Refugees which entered into force in 1967.

46. The United Kingdom is a party to the Convention, and to the Protocol. The Government of the United Kingdom did not however extend their application to Hong Kong. The Government of the PRC is also a party to the Convention and to the Protocol, and after 1st July 1997 it too did not extend either to apply to Hong Kong. As a matter of agreement and practice, however, the authorities in Hong Kong have applied both, or have purported to do so.

47. Influxes of migrants from Vietnam into Hong Kong started in 1978, and in 1979 there was a mass influx. That was followed by an international conference in Geneva that year as a result of which Hong Kong and, upon an agreement by certain resettlement countries (the USA, the United Kingdom, Canada and Australia) to absorb refugees from Indo-China, other South East Asian territories agreed to afford to asylum seekers first asylum without first determining whether they were or were not Convention refugees. That was when first the concept of permission to remain in Hong Kong 'as a refugee pending his resettlement'; entered the vocabulary of officialdom in Hong Kong, as evidenced by legislation which provided for the issue of refugee cards (see Ordinance 62 of 1980, section 2). At that stage and as a result of the international conference in Geneva, all those arriving from Vietnam were permitted to remain. There was then no question of categorising someone as a refugee and letting him in but removing others. In other words, there was then no 'screening' exercise.

48. In 1981, legislation was enacted to cater for the detention of the large numbers who had arrived and were arriving. That is when section 13A first appeared; not quite in the form as it now is, but with the provision that "An immigration officer may permit any person who was previously resident in Vietnam and who has been examined under s. 4(1)(a) to remain in Hong Kong as a refugee pending his resettlement elsewhere." (see Ordinance No.35 of 1981.)

49. 1988 witnessed what has been called 'the second wave'; in other words, a wave of further newcomers from Vietnam on a large scale. This triggered another Geneva conference and resulted in an international agreement known as the Comprehensive Plan of Action, by which it was agreed that there would be screening for all irregular arrivals from Vietnam in countries of first asylum in South East Asia.

50. The need for screening required the development of appropriate screening processes, and these were agreed between the Hong Kong Government and the United Nations High Commission for Refugees ('UNHCR'), and specified in a Statement of Understanding reached between the two bodies in September 1988. That document included the following statement :

"1. The Hong Kong Government reaffirms that ... all refugees will be treated according to international standards and will have access to resettlement. It further affirms its undertaking that the determination of refugee status will be in accordance with the 1951 Convention and 1967 Protocol relating to the status of refugees and UNHCR guidelines."

The criteria for determining refugee status were to be based on the UNHCR Handbook on Procedures for Determining Refugee Status under the Convention and the Protocol.

51. Those who were not screened in had a right of appeal to the Governor-in-Council under section 53 of the Immigration Ordinance. It was said by the Statement of Understanding to be a right of objection 'against refusal of refugee status'.

52. Those screened out - in other words, those who were classified as non-refugees - were sent back to Vietnam; either under the Voluntary Repatriation Scheme; or, for those who had to be compelled to return, under the Orderly Repatriation Programme.

53. Challenges to determinations about refugee status inevitably became very numerous and appeals to the Governor-in-Council impracticable, so there was enacted Ordinance 23 of 1989 which created the RSRB. I have referred earlier to the key provisions relating to the power of that Board.

54. By section 5 of the 1989 Ordinance, there was introduced the provision by which no objection could be made any longer to the Governor-in-Council against a removal order made under section 13E.

The Convention

55. The Convention defined, in Article 1 section A, a refugee as someone who :

"... owing to well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality and is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country; or who, not having a nationality and being outside the country of his former habitual residence as a result of such events, is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to return to it."

56. There are a number of cessation clauses, in other words clauses which define the circumstances in which (former) refugees are deemed no longer to have refugee status for the purpose of the Convention. These clauses fall under Article 1C of the Convention :

" This Convention shall cease to apply to any person falling under the terms of section A if :

(1) He has voluntarily re-availed himself of the protection of the country of his nationality; or

(2) Having lost his nationality, he has voluntarily re-acquired it, or

(3) He has acquired a new nationality, and enjoys the protection of the country of his new nationality; or

(4) He has voluntarily re-established himself in the country which he left or outside which he remained owing to fear of persecution; or

(5) He can no longer, because the circumstances in connexion with which he has been recognized as a refugee have ceased to exist, continue to refuse to avail himself of the protection of the country of his nationality;

Provided that this paragraph shall not apply to a refugee falling under section A(1) of this article who is able to invoke compelling reasons arising out of previous persecution for refusing to avail himself of the protection of the country of nationality;

(6) Being a person who has no nationality he is, because of the circumstances in connexion with which he has been recognized as a refugee have ceased to exist, able to return to the country of his former habitual residence;

Provided that this paragraph shall not apply to a refugee falling under section A(1) of this article who is able to invoke compelling reasons arising out of previous persecution for refusing to return to the country of his former habitual residence."

57. Article 1E is an exclusion clause :

"This Convention shall not apply to a person who is recognised by the competent authorities of the country in which he has taken residence as having the rights and obligations which are attached to the possession of the nationality of that country."

58. Other Articles of the Convention seek to accord protection of specific rights by contracting parties in favour of the refugee within their territory. So, for example, Article 13 requires that contracting states :

"... shall accord to a refugee treatment as favourable as possible and, in any event, not less favourable than that accorded to aliens generally in the same circumstances, as regards the acquisition of movable and immovable property ..."

59. Article 17 provides that contracting states :

"... shall accord to refugees lawfully staying in their territory the most favourable treatment accorded to nationals of a foreign country in the same circumstances, as regards the right to engage in wage-earning employment."

Similar obligations are imposed in relation to those desirous of practising a "liberal profession"; and as regards housing "treatment as favourable as possible" (Article 21); and as for primary education "the same treatment as is accorded nationals"; and with non-primary education "treatment not less favourable than that accorded to aliens generally"; and other like provisions concerning matters such as public assistance; and freedom of movement.

60. Article 31 states that :

"1. The Contracting States shall not impose penalties on account of their illegal entry or presence on refugees who, coming directly from enter or present themselves without authorization ...

2. ... shall not apply to the movements of such refugees restrictions other than those which are necessary and such restrictions shall only be applied until their status in the country is regularised or they obtain admission into another country. The Contracting States shall allow such refugees a reasonable period and all the necessary facilities to obtain admission into another country."

61. Article 33 is the Article which precludes refoulement to the territory where the refugee's life or freedom would be threatened on account of his race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion.

62. Article 34 requires contracting states :

"... as far as possible [to] facilitate the assimilation and naturalisation of refugees. They shall in particular make every effort to expedite naturalisation proceedings ..."

IV. ISSUES OF LEGALITY

Must a refugee classified as such under section 13A be granted permission to remain pending resettlement?

63. The essence of the applicants' case is that section 13A(1) envisages, indeed requires, a two stage process. First, the Director is required to determine whether, applying Convention standards, a person is or is not a refugee. If that determination is against him, then permission to remain is necessarily refused, and the review procedure envisaged by sections 13D(3) and 13F is engaged, so that the RSRB is then called upon to decide whether or not the migrant is or is not a refugee. On the other hand, if the immigration officer decides that the migrant is a refugee, he retains a discretion whether or not to permit him to remain. If he permits him to remain, well and good. If not, then it follows, according to this argument, that the migrant has been refused permission to remain as a refugee, and that, naturally, ignites the review procedure, and the task then for the Review Board is to decide whether the refugee should or should not be permitted to remain; that being "a decision which the Director might lawfully make" (section 13F(5)). The Board has the same role, it is said, if it decides contrary to the finding of the immigration officer, that the person is indeed a Convention refugee. There is no need then for the Board to remit the matter to the immigration authorities for a determination about permission to remain, for the Board has the power to take that decision itself.

64. This construction, it is said, arises from the very wording of section 13A, and from the consequences of a contrary view. The contrary view would have the consequence that against the refusal of permission to remain for reasons unconnected with a determination of refugee status itself, the migrant would have no avenue of review whether to the RSRB or to the Chief Executive-in-Council; and that, it is argued, can never have been intended. My attention is drawn to comments of the majority in the Privy Council judgment in Nguyen Tuan Cuong which show that that majority clearly contemplated that the RSRB was to have in this case a role not only in deciding whether any particular applicant was a refugee but also whether, for example, he or she had unreasonably refused an offer of resettlement.

65. The respondent, on the other hand, says that once she decides that a migrant is a Convention refugee, she is bound then to admit him as a refugee pending resettlement under section 13A(1) of the Ordinance. So much at least was evident from the Statement of Understanding by which Hong Kong was required to ensure that "all refugees ... will have access to resettlement". The applicants respond by pointing out that the Statement of Understanding is not part of domestic law; it has no legislative force, and at most can only give right to a legitimate expectation of some procedural right, but not if it conflicts with the clear intention of the legislation.

66. It seems clear to me that section 13A does not confer on the Director or her junior officers a discretion to refuse permission to someone who has been classified, in an exercise conducted under section 13A, as a Convention refugee. The section does not require that construction, and the scheme of the Ordinance in its material parts runs contrary to that construction. Nor in my judgment was it ever intended that the RSRB should engage in any question beyond the question whether someone was or was not a refugee.

67. I have used and emphasised the words "in an exercise conducted under section 13A" for the following reason. As a matter of international law, there is no obligation upon the Director to assess the substantive merits of a claim to refugee status of those arriving in Hong Kong where there is substantial evidence that those arrivals already enjoy effective protection as refugees in the country from which they have arrived, or in any other country, for that matter.

68. The principle is summarised in Minister for Immigration and Multicultural Affairs v. Thiyagarajah (1997) 151 ALR 685, at page 702, per Van Doussa J, who thought that it was :

"... not necessary for the purposes of disposing of this appeal to seek to chart the outer boundaries of the principles of international law which permit a contracting state to return an asylum seeker to a third country without undertaking an assessment of the substantive merits of the claim for refugee status. It is sufficient to conclude that international law does not preclude a contracting state from taking this course where it is proposed to return an asylum seeker to a third country which has already recognised that person's status as a refugee, and has accorded that person effective protection, including the right to reside, enter and re-enter that country. The expression effective protection ... in the context of the obligations arising under the Refugees Convention ... means protection which will effectively ensure that there is not a breach of Article 33 if the person happens to be a refugee."

If there is no obligation under international law in such circumstances to assess the merits of a claim for refugee status, there can equally be no requirement under international law which precludes a contracting state from returning someone known to be a refugee to a country where his status is recognised and which has accorded him effective protection; still less where the state to which he is being sent is a Convention country. Support for that approach is found in the statement - to which reference is made in Thiyagarajah at page 701 - by the UNHCR in 1993 :

"... that the return of those who have obtained effective protection in another country is permissible, subject to the conditions laid down in Executive Committee Conclusion Number 58 (1989) on Irregular Movements. ... Goodwin-Gill concludes :

'The most that can be said at present is that international law permits the return of refugees and asylum seekers to another State if there is substantial evidence of admissibility ...'"

That is the state of international law on the subject; and the obligation imported by the SAR Government's adherence to the Statement of Understanding is to treat all refugees according to international standards. Hong Kong's obligation according to international standards are those summarised in the minority judgment in Nguyen Tuan Cuong, at page 79 :

"... the only obligations of contracting states are, first, not to punish a refugee who has entered directly from the country in which his life or freedom was threatened for a Convention reason and secondly, not to return him across the frontier of that country."

The fact that this was a dissenting opinion "... does not detract from the authority of [the] statement. The majority of the Privy Council did not find it necessary to consider the obligations imposed by the [Convention]." (see Thiyagarajah at page 698).

69. As for domestic legislation, those who constituted the minority in the Privy Council judgment took the view that domestic legislation did not import an obligation to make an assessment of the substantive merits of a refugee claim in circumstances such as those of the applicants. The majority, at page 73, defined the prime issue in the case as whether the applicants were "... entitled to or at any rate received a determination under section 13A of their claim for refugee status ... ." (emphasis added); and the order of the Judicial Committee, directed at the Director of Immigration, and from which all since has flowed, was that she "... consider the applicants claim to remain in Hong Kong as a refugee ..."

70. Although, as it seems to me, neither international law nor domestic law imposes an obligation upon the Director to consider the substantive merits of claims to refugee status where there is substantial evidence of effective protection in another country; that said, the Director has in fact engaged in an assessment under section 13A of the substantive merits of a claim to refugee status. She has done so because she was required by an order to do so.

71. So I return to the question whether after an exercise conducted under section 13A the Director has a discretion to refuse permission to remain as a refugee to someone who, upon an examination of the substantive merits of the claim to refugee status, has been categorised as a refugee.

72. In passages which have loomed large in argument before me, and which played a significant part in the Director's approach to the decisions which she made, Sir John May, delivering the judgment of the majority said this :

"Further, as was the view of Sears J. [1995] 3 H.K.C. 373, 376-377, where section 13A provides that the appropriate officer may permit a previous resident of Vietnam to remain in Hong Kong as a refugee, there must impliedly be provided a power in that officer to refuse permission to such a person. Thus at least when the present applicants arrived in Hong Kong waters in their boat and it was known at once, or within a very short time, that they were previous residents of Vietnam, there was a duty on the immigration authorities to ask them whether they were seeking to remain in Hong Kong as refugees. Clearly they were and equally, in the light of the administrative decisions which the director had taken, his decision on such a request would have been to refuse it.

Indeed, in substance this is what has already occurred. By electing to be placed in a detention centre after the playing to them of the recorded message, the applicants implicitly sought permission under section 13A(1) of the Ordinance to remain in Hong Kong as refugees pending resettlement elsewhere. No other provision of the Ordinance provides for such permission, and the recorded message, however discouraging, clearly held out some hope of it. By the formal refusal notices, if not earlier, permission was equally clearly refused. Thereupon it became the duty of the director under section 13D(3) to cause to be served notices of the right to apply for review. The first issue on a review is likely to be whether the applicants have lost their status as refugees from Vietnam because of settlement in China. They claim, with supporting evidence, that in China they have been denied, inter alia, rights to work, to the education of their families, to marry, to own land, and to legal residence by household registration. There are even claims of a risk of being forced back to Vietnam. These various claims may be contested, and it is not a function of their Lordships in this appeal to attempt either to resolve them or to forecast how they will be resolved. If, however, they are made out, it will be open to the review board to find that the applicants have never lost their Vietnamese refugee status; and perhaps to find further that, within the meaning of section 13A(3)(a), they have reasonable excuse for not accepting any offer of resettlement in China. Nor can the possibility of their obtaining resettlement elsewhere be dismissed at this stage as altogether negligible."

Again, at page 77, the majority returned to the theme that :

"... It is at least possible that if these applicants obtained a review, the chance of some of them being resettled elsewhere than in China might well attract a review board, as it has in other countries such as Australia."

73. In so far as the majority alluded to the power of the immigration officers to refuse permission to remain, it is instructive to note the way in which the matter was put, for whether to that end or not, the way in which it was put holds the key to the correct interpretation of section 13A in so far as it provides for the discretion to refuse permission to remain : "..... where section 13A provides that the appropriate officer may permit a previous resident of Vietnam to remain in Hong Kong, there must impliedly be a power in that officer to refuse permission to such a person." (see page 75)(emphases added). "Such a person" relates back, not to a person categorised as a refugee, but rather to "a previous resident of Vietnam". And the passage accurately reflects the way in which the section is drawn. There is, I believe, a flaw in the approach to construction which I am invited by the applicants to adopt, and the flaw is demonstrated by the words of he section as the section is drawn, and there is no need to go outside the section -whether to history, or to the Statement of Understanding. The section says that the immigration officer "may permit any person who was previously resident in Vietnam ... to remain in Hong Kong ...". It does not say that the "immigration officer may permit any refugee to remain in Hong Kong pending his resettlement". Phraseology along the latter lines would carry the argument of the applicants further. What the discretion is directed at, in so far as there is a discretion, is at someone who is a resident or former resident of Vietnam and who satisfies the conditions of subsections (a) and (b) of section 13A. The section does not confer a discretion to permit a refugee to remain or not. It permits an officer to decide whether a Vietnamese resident may or may not remain in a particular capacity. The section does not say in terms what is to happen to those who are in fact refugees. A correct analysis of the section is that it assumes that there exists a category of persons who are in fact refugees; and it is implicit that those so categorised are allowed as a matter of course to remain in Hong Kong pending resettlement. It is implicit, in my judgment, from the section and from other provisions within Part IIIA of the Ordinance that once such a resident is classed under section 13A as a refugee, permission to remain is assumed; it must be given. Were an immigration officer correctly explaining the effect of this section to an applicant he would say something along the following lines :

"All those classified under section 13A as refugees are entitled to remain in Hong Kong pending resettlement. I might treat you as a refugee. I might not. If however I classify you as a refugee, you will be allowed to remain pending resettlement. If I do not so classify you, you may, if I permit it, remain in some other capacity, but the one capacity in which you may not then remain is that of refugee, for I have decided that you do not possess that status."

And if Sir John May's judgment is to be construed on this point as definitive of the intent of Part IIIA and of the extent of the discretion of the immigration officer under section 13A(1) - and I do not think it was so intended - then, even so, that does not avail the applicants' case on this point; for at page 76B the majority say that :

"The interpretation of Part IIIA of the Ordinance adopted in the present judgment and by the Hong Kong courts appears to give effect to the purposes of the Statement of Understanding between the Hong Kong Government and the United Nations High Commission for Refugees ... . The document provides that all refugees will have access to resettlement ... ." (emphasis added)

If the correct interpretation of the Ordinance does or is intended to give effect to the Statement of Understanding, then it must follow that those classified as refugees must be permitted to remain pending resettlement; otherwise there arises a breach of the undertaking in the Statement of Understanding that they will have access to resettlement.

74. In so far as the applicants seek nonetheless to distance themselves from the Statement of Understanding, and suggest that it does not sit well with the Ordinance in this regard, it appears evident from a reading of the minority judgment too that the acceptance in fact of relevant international refugee obligations and understandings, namely the Convention and the Statement of Understanding, "underlies the statutory provisions at issue in this appeal and makes it necessary to examine their background in international law before attempting to construe them." (see minority judgment at page 77G Nguyen Tuan Cuong).

75. The limited jurisdiction of the RSRB provides further and cogent support for the interpretation for which the respondent contends. The extent of the Board's power was not an issue upon which the majority's decision in Nguyen Tuan Cuong turned, and the comments in the majority judgment to which I have referred about the kind of decisions which it might make - implying that it could look at questions such as reasons for refusing a resettlement offer - were discursive. The decision of the majority depended upon the majority view that, on the facts, the applicants had applied for a determination of refugee status and, having done so, had been entitled to a determination; and, further, that the courts below had wrongly exercised the discretion whether to grant the relief to which in the circumstances the applicants were prima facie entitled.

76. A person against whom an adverse decision has been made under section 13A(1) may apply to the Board for one purpose only, namely, "to have the decision that he may not remain as a refugee reviewed" (section 13F). If it is clear that that phrase is directed at only one decision and not two, then it must follow that the decision open to the immigration officer under section 13A(1) is also a single and not a two-part decision. So it becomes necessary to ascertain what it is that the Board is entitled to review. Those in the minority in the Privy Council were in no doubt that the matter which the RSRB was required to decide "was whether the applicant had the status of a refugee from Vietnam." (see page 83B). They pointed out that "It was after all called a 'Refugee Status Review Board'. Its function was to make a decision 'as to the status of the appellant'."

77. Section 13F(5) requires from the RSRB a decision as to status and as to his continued detention. No other decision is required. None else is permitted. "The status of a person is his legal position or condition." (see Jowitt's Dictionary of English Law, Vol.2, page 1695). It is a concept which envisages that someone is clothed with certain attributes. It arises from a determination of facts, not an exercise of discretion. In other words, it is for the Board to decide as a question of fact whether an applicant is or is not clothed with those attributes, and there are consequences which automatically flow from its determination. The very injunction that the Director is required "to give effect to that decision", presupposes that some further action or decision is automatically required as a result of the Board's determination which it is for the Director to take or make. If the Board is empowered to decide not only that someone is or is not a refugee, but also that he should be, or he should not be, permitted to remain in Hong Kong, I cannot see how that latter decision can properly be called a decision as to status. And if the Board has power to say that someone should be allowed to stay, does it then also have power to recommend conditions? And do those recommendations constitute "a decision as to the status of the appellant"?

78. Conversely, if it is not a question of the Board making recommendations that a refugee be permitted to stay and as to conditions of his stay, but it is rather a question that the Board is entitled to grant permission to stay and itself to impose conditions (for it is said that the Board may make any decision which the Director might lawfully make under the Ordinance) then, since the section requires the Director to give effect to the Board's decision, what is there still for the Director to do? The phrase '... the Director shall give effect to such decision' only makes sense if all that remains for the Director is to give effect to the Board's decision by granting permission to remain as a refugee if there is a decision favourable to the appellant, and to refuse such permission if there is not. And the phrase 'being a decision which the Director might lawfully have made under this Ordinance' does not mean that the Board may in respect of an applicant for review exercise any and every power available to the Director under the legislation in respect of former Vietnamese residents or those classified as refugees. It means only that such decision as to status and detention that it makes must be one which the Director is in that regard entitled by law to make.

79. Subsection (6) of section 13F is significant too, for it stipulates or declares that pending the decision of the Board the appellant has not by reason of his application the right to remain in Hong Kong. That would be an odd provision if it were intended that the Board itself were engaged in reviewing a discretion to permit someone to remain in Hong Kong; and the point gains some ground when the subsection is examined in contrast to section 53B of the Ordinance which provides that where a removal order has been made under section 19, it is not to be executed pending appeal.

80. Section 59 of the Ordinance gave to the Governor in Council regulation making powers pursuant to which regulations were made, entitled 'Immigration (Refugee Status Review Boards) (Procedure) Regulations", and I note that regulation 7 prescribes that for the purpose of deciding whether to pursue an appeal to the Board and in order to decide what representations to make to it, certain files must be made available by the Director for the inspection of the applicant's representative. Those files are :

".... files containing copies of -

(a) the determination of the immigration officer not to allow the person detained under section 13D(1) refugee status and the reasons for that determination; and

(b) all material upon which this determination was based, including any questions put to that person and his answers in respect thereof,"

These regulations were made on 16th June 1989, at the same time as the enactment of Ordinance 23 of 1989. If the regulations are to be given any weight as an aid to construction, they support the construction for which the respondent contends, for it seems that it was contemplated when they were made that the section 13 decision under review was a decision about refugee status and nothing else.

81. That, in the context of the factual setting in which the legislation was framed, should come as no surprise. The fact is that prior to 1988 all those arriving from Indo-China were admitted as refugees pending their resettlement elsewhere. None was turned away. Once screening came into effect, "[t]he whole point of the screening procedure was to admit as refugees only those persons who would have a claim under international law to be received by a host country as refugees from Vietnam." (see Nguyen Tuan Cuong at page 83F). The point was not, in other words, to admit some refugees and to turn others away. In the days when this legislation was enacted, turning someone away gave rise, in practical terms, to one of two consequences either refoulement, or forcing arrivals out to sea; neither of which course was morally acceptable nor in accordance with the international requirements to which the Hong Kong authorities had said they would subscribe.

82. For the reasons which I have provided, I am satisfied that upon a true construction of the Ordinance it was not intended that, upon the grant or recognition of refugee status under section 13A, the Director or her immigration officers were required then to determine whether, nonetheless, he or she should be refused permission to remain as a refugee pending resettlement.

Classification as a 'refugee from Vietnam in China?

83. The Director in this case classified each applicant as a "refugee from Vietnam in China". The classification "refugee from Vietnam in China" is not a classification to be found in the Ordinance. It was a classification carefully couched by the Director and, as can more readily be appreciated after the advantage of full argument in this case, intended to encapsulate or reflect her view that whilst the applicants were, in respect of Vietnam, refugees, they were not refugees in respect of China; that they had settled in China; that settlement or resettlement was available to them there; and that therefore they had no claim to remain in Hong Kong for any longer than was necessary to arrange for their return to the place where they had been settled and where resettlement awaited them. Refugee status "... is always a status relative to a particular country or countries," (see Nguyen Tuan Cuong at page 79D), and in discussing the question of obligations under international law, the minority in that judgment venture the conclusion that "Hong Kong ... has no obligation in international law to treat immigrants from China differently from any other Chinese immigrants merely because they were once resident in Vietnam. The fact that they may still have refugee status in relation to Vietnam is irrelevant". I cite those two passages not for their reference to Hong Kong's obligations or lack of them in relation to the applicants for the judgment is a minority judgment but to highlight the concept, which is not controversial, of refugee status in relation to a particular country; in this case, in relation to Vietnam.

84. In following the order of the Privy Council "to consider the applicant's claim to remain in Hong Kong as a refugee in accordance with Part III of the Immigration Ordinance," the Director was bound to consider whether the applicants were or were not refugees in relation to Vietnam. There was no suggestion or none still pursued that they are refugees from the Mainland in any Convention sense; nor could any such contention arise under section 13A or any aspect of Part IIIA of that Ordinance. So, in granting permission under section 13A of the Ordinance for the applicants to remain, the Director was deciding that in relation to Vietnam they continued to be refugees. This was not an exercise which engaged the Director for long. Indeed, I was told by Mr Marshall S.C., who appeared on behalf of the Director, that an assumption in favour of the applicants was made to that effect. The true question which had then to be addressed was the question of resettlement. It was hardly open on the acknowledged facts of these cases, it seems to me, for the Director to come to any conclusion other than that the applicants were in relation to Vietnam refugees, for none of the cessation clauses of the Convention applied.

85. The classification means that the Director was then obliged to treat the applicants as those screened in for the purposes of the Ordinance; and they thereupon because Vietnamese refugees as defined by section 2 of the Ordinance. So, too, and for reasons which I have given, the Director was indeed bound to permit each such applicant to remain in Hong Kong pending resettlement.

The obligation to resettle

86. One of the questions posed for my determination relates to the meaning of "pending resettlement elsewhere". Does it mean providing a person with the opportunity to seek resettlement in a third country?

87. The applicants argue that 'pending resettlement elsewhere' is a term which reflects or is intended to reflect legal policy, and that it imports an obligation upon the Director to provide the refugee with time in which to try to persuade another country to admit him as a refugee.

88. In my judgment, the phrase is not inserted into section 13A with a view to enabling the refugee to apply for such resettlement as he sees fit. The phrase is there to delineate the duration and purpose of his stay in Hong Kong. It is not an open ticket for the refugee to seek resettlement, or to seek such resettlement as he sees fit. It does not envisage that resettlement will necessarily be in a country other than that from which he has travelled; it merely envisages resettlement in a country other than the one from which, by reason of the conditions described by Article 1 of the Convention, he was displaced. In the context of the Ordinance, the phrase connotes the act of restoring stability to the life of the refugee after a period of turmoil and political adversity, to the degree that the refugee is admitted to a country where he may permanently reside and be free from any danger of forced return to the place of previous actual or perceived persecution. Once that stability may to that extent be restored by an offer made by a Convention country that the refugee will be accepted as a permanent resident, granted a durable solution, and not refouled, there is then no obligation upon the Director to wait whilst the refugee explores other avenues of potential resettlement.

89. If there is a case where an offer of resettlement is made and it is suggested that there is a reasonable excuse for not accepting the offer, then of course the Director is bound to consider the excuse offered. It might be that there is some circumstance relating to the proposed resettlement conditions which constitute a reasonable excuse. So, too, if an offer from another country is in the pipeline, one which the refugee would prefer to accept, then no doubt the Director would, if there seemed some reasonable prospect of success, wait a while before returning to the available resettlement option; but unless the 'pipeline offer' constituted a reasonable excuse for refusing the 'live' offer, then there would be no obligation upon the Director to await the outcome. In this particular case the Director does not say that she will, even at this stage, send the applicants to the Mainland come what may, regardless, that is, of any offers that may come from other countries.

90. The point is made in the evidence of a Mrs Austin, filed on behalf of the applicants, that :

"[r]esettlement of all other Vietnamese refugees has been conducted on an individual basis under the auspices of the UNHCR which writes up detailed resumes of each refugee for submission to Consulates in a positive way rather than a negative one. If one country rejects them for resettlement, efforts are made with another country or countries, and there are many more resettlement countries than Mr Choy purports to have received an answer from in individual cases. ..... Many of the applicants have close relatives in the United States and other resettlement countries which increase the likelihood that they would be accepted by those countries for resettlement."

The reference to Mr Choy receiving answers from resettlement countries is a reference to evidence filed by Mr Choy that in May 1997 :

"..... the then Security Branch started ... to explore with the local consulates of resettlement countries the possibilities of accepting ECVIIs from Hong Kong. We were however informed by the Secretary for Security on 21 May 1997 that Australia, Canada and USA has declined to offer resettlement for the ECVIIs. We were further informed on 2 June and 7 June 1997 that Sweden and Japan respectively had also declined to offer resettlement for the ECVIIs."

91. In the circumstances of the applicants long residence in China, those responses are perhaps not surprising. But to the point made by Mrs Austin, it must be said that the position of the applicants is one which is markedly different from those of refugees who have arrived in Hong Kong in the past. Put simply, those who arrived in the past, those to whom she refers as "all other Vietnamese refugees" were not refugees who, on being "screened in", already had a resettlement offer on the table.

Section 13E

92. The question next posed is whether the Director may, as in this case, immediately after granting a 'refugee from Vietnam in China' permission to remain in Hong Kong under section 13A of the Ordinance make a removal order in respect of such a person.

93. The argument is that this can never have been intended. It is part of the argument in support of the contention that upon a true construction of section 13A, if the Director is minded to remove someone who is a refugee he should refuse permission to remain, leaving the refugee with the right to appeal to the RSRB. It is said by the applicants that the Ordinance envisages that section 13E will not come into play until after something happens after permission to stay has been granted; that the Director cannot or ought not to be permitted to use the power to land purely for the purpose of making a removal order under section 13E against which there is no right of appeal or review; and that the use of section 13E in such circumstances "makes a mockery of the right conferred on the refugee to see if he can find some country that will accept him and his family for resettlement".

94. I do not agree that section 13E is unavailable to the Director in these circumstances. Let us assume that the applicants had not arrived here from Mainland China having lived there for as long as they had, but that instead they had arrived in 1989, say, directly from Vietnam; and assume then that a screening exercise had been conducted as a result of which it was determined that they were Convention refugees. They would then have been granted permission to remain in Hong Kong as refugees pending resettlement elsewhere; indeed in my judgment the Director would have been obliged to grant them that permission. But assume further that within two weeks unusually swiftly because, perhaps, wheels had earlier been put in motion on their behalf, and before the screening exercise had been completed the authorities of the United States had offered to settle them there, to allow them permanently to reside in the USA. Had they without reasonable cause refused that offer, the next lawful step available to the Director would have been the making of an order under section 13E that they be removed from Hong Kong. I fail to see why in such circumstances the powers under that section would not have been exercisable, and there would have then been no question of a review by the RSRB, because by then, and quite properly, the Director would have granted permission to stay. If that is correct, that the use of section 13E was then available, there is in logic no distinction between the powers lawfully available to the Director in that situation and those, on the other hand, available when the refugee has the resettlement offer in his pocket on the day upon which he is screened in as a refugee, but has evinced a determination to reject that offer and has no reasonable cause for so doing.

95. Nor do I agree that it can properly be said that the Director used the power to land under section 13A 'purely for the purpose of making an order under section 13E'. She had in light of the fact which she found, namely, that the applicants were indeed still Convention refugees, no option but to permit them to land.

96. It is contended that the course adopted is drenched in artificiality. In so far as there is an appearance of artificiality, that is not the creation of the Director. It is the product of the fact that Part IIIA of the Ordinance was enacted to deal with refugees with a history entirely different from that of these applicants; of the terms of the order made by the Privy Council which required the Director to determine their status; and of the fact that at the time of that determination there was already an offer of resettlement from a Convention country which could swiftly be put into effect. The fact that the lawful use by the Director, in quick sequence, of disparate powers in the Ordinance would create an air of artificiality did not then require the Director to stand the Ordinance on its head, and to read into it procedures and obligations which it did not require.

Padfield

" Parliament must have conferred the discretion [on the Minister] with the intention that it should be used to promote the policy and objects of the Act; the policy and the objects of the Act must be determined by construing the Act as a whole ..... if the Minister ...so uses his discretion as to thwart or run counter to the policy and objects of the Act, then our law would be very defective if the person aggrieved were not entitled to the protection of the court."

(per Lord Reid in Padfield v. The Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food [1968] AC 997, 1030)

97. This principle is advanced by the applicants who contend that the Director has abused the discretion conferred upon her by the legislature in sections 13A and 13E.

98. It is said that the policy and object of the legislation is that former residents of Vietnam have a right to require the Director to consider their applications for permission to remain, and if they fail to obtain permission from the Director, to have then an opportunity of persuading the RSRB to grant that permission, and that by the way the Director has approached this exercise she has frustrated that policy. The permission to remain has been utilised, is the implication, as a device to avoid recourse by the applicants to the RSRB and to enable the Director then, without such recourse, or indeed any other avenue of review, to utilise section 13E. This contention cannot survive my conclusion that once it was determined (and the determination is not challenged) that the applicants are refugees in relation to Vietnam, there was then no remaining discretion to refuse them permission to remain as such.

99. The main thrust of Mr Dykes' submissions under the 'Padfield Illegality' heading is that the discretion under section 13E has been abused. It is said to be inconceivable that the policy and objects of Part IIIA of the Ordinance are served if the words 'at any time' are applied by the Director literally, so as to enable permission to remain and an order to remove to be granted and made at the same time. There must at least, the argument goes, be an implicit limit on the words 'at any time', so that, for example, a person waiting to be screened could not within the lawful exercise of that discretion be the subject of a section 13E order. I am by no means sure that that is right, for there may in a particular case be good reason for requiring an applicant to leave. But be that as it may, that is not the factual setting in this case; and it is only the use of the discretion within the factual setting which existed when the Director made her order with which I am concerned.

100. For the purpose of the present point, it is sufficient to say that the policy and object of Part IIIA of the Ordinance was to enable Hong Kong to exercise immigration control in respect of a particular class of persons arriving in this small territory in large numbers, that is, those former residents of Vietnam seeking first asylum in Hong Kong; to preserve the right to refuse entry to non-refugees; and to give effect to an internationally accepted approach to those who were Convention refugees, by permitting them to enter Hong Kong for a limited purpose, namely, until they were resettled elsewhere; and then to remove from its shores those who could reasonably be expected to leave because there was now a place for them to go; a place which afforded them a permanent home.

101. Once the Director had in this case concluded that there was a permanent home to which they could go, in which indeed they had lived for more than ten years, and where there was available a durable solution, and that they were not to be refouled to Vietnam, her decision to send them (back) to that permanent home did not run counter to the policy and objects of the legislation; on the contrary, it was well within it.

The Reasons given for the Removal Orders

102. There is a root and branch attack by the applicants on the validity of the reasons given by the Director for the making of the removal orders. They say that the Director has not asked the right questions, and has not applied the correct principles. It is argued :

(1) that the Director has taken into account Conclusion 58, whereas Conclusion 58 is not relevant to the decision which she had to make about resettlement and whether a removal order was justified;

(2) that the Director thought that as a result of Conclusion 58 she was bound to order the return of the applicants to the Mainland, whereas if Conclusion 58 were relevant, it was intended to offer guidance only;

(3) that the Director has applied Conclusion 58 questions to these applicants, thereby asking whether they had been and would be treated according to "basic human standards" whereas the correct question was whether they had been and would enjoy those Convention rights embodied in Chapters II-V of the Convention; and

(4) that the Director has misunderstood the judgment of the majority in the Privy Council, believing them to say that the applicants had, if they enjoyed certain rights on the Mainland lost entitlement to consideration for resettlement in any country other than the PRC, whereas the Privy Council were not making such a suggestion, although if they were they could not legislate to that effect, and that such a contention was contrary to international law.

Conclusion 58

103. The Executive Committee of the High Commissioner's Programme was established in 1957, and its terms of reference "include advising the UN High Commissioner for Refugees, on request, in the exercise of [his] statutory functions"; and on allied matters (see Goodwin Gill "The Refugee in International Law" page 7). "It is currently made up of 44 countries. ...The Executive Committee every year adopts what it calls conclusions, which are not binding legal norms but they are guidelines for both the UNHCR and states in terms of the way they deal with refugee issues." (speech before the Legal and Constitutional Legislation Committee of the Australian Senate by Mr Fontaine, Regional Representative, Office of the UNHCR : as reported in Hansard (Australia) for 3 February 1995). At its 40th session, which took place in 1989, the Executive Committee addressed the "Problem of refugees and asylum seekers who move in an irregular manner from a country in which they had already found protection," and issued recommendations for the treatment of such persons. Those recommendations or guidelines are articulated in the document issued by the Committee, called Conclusion 58.

104. In so far as may be relevant to these proceedings, Conclusion 58 provides as follows :

a) The phenomenon of refugees, whether they have been formally identified as such or not (asylum-seekers), who move in an irregular manner from countries in which they have already found protection, in order to seek asylum or permanent resettlement elsewhere, is a matter of growing concern. This concern results from the destabilizing effect which irregular movements of this kind have on structured international efforts to provide appropriate solutions for refugees. Such irregular movements involve entry into the territory of another country, without the prior consent of the national authorities or without an entry visa, or with no or insufficient documentation normally required for travel purposes, or with false or fraudulent documentation. Of similar concern is the growing phenomenon of refugees and asylum-seekers who wilfully destroy or dispose of their documentation in order to mislead the authorities of the country of arrival;

b) Irregular movements of refugees and asylum-seekers who have already found protection in a country are, to a large extent, composed of persons who feel impelled to leave, due to the absence of educational and employment possibilities and the non-availability of long-term durable solutions by way of voluntary repatriation, local integration and resettlement;

.........

e) Refugees and asylum-seekers, who have found protection in a particular country, should normally not move from that country in an irregular manner in order to find durable solutions elsewhere but should take advantage of durable solutions available in that country through action taken by governments and UNHCR as recommended in paragraphs (c) and (d) above;

f) Where refugees and asylum-seekers nevertheless move in an irregular manner from a country where they have already found protection, they may be returned to that country if

i) they are protected there against refoulement and

ii) they are permitted to remain there and to be treated in accordance with recognized basic human standards until a durable solution is found for them. Where such return is envisaged, UNHCR may be requested to assist in arrangements for the re-admission and reception of the persons concerned;

........"

105. It is appropriate at this juncture to recall the exercise upon which the Director had embarked. As a result of the order which she was obeying, she was not deciding whether or not there was substantial evidence that persons claiming to be refugees had the benefit of effective protection elsewhere, and should therefore be returned to the place of protection. She had embarked on a section 13A examination of the substantive merits of a claim to refugee status and had, furthermore, decided that the applicants were refugees and had, in consequence, granted them permission to remain as refugees pending resettlement.

106. The phrase "pending resettlement" imports, in my judgment, a protection for the migrant, or applicant, which goes beyond the confines of that which is contemplated by Conclusion 58. Conclusion 58 mirrors the principle of international law, which I have discussed earlier, that the authorities of a state are quite entitled to return a migrant to a country where effective protection has been granted, and that that may be done even without an examination of the substantive merits of a claim to refugee status. So, too, if the authorities of that state happen to know or to be satisfied that the applicant is indeed a refugee under Article 1 of the Convention, still there is no call on the asylum of that state when protection has been granted elsewhere. But where the state at which the migrant has most recently arrived has undertaken by law to allow the migrant to remain pending resettlement, that is a different story; for 'resettlement' has a special connotation.

'Resettlement' means to 'restore to settled state or condition' (New Oxford English Dictionary). It implies a condition of permanence, rather than one of temporary refuge; a restoration of stability to the life of the refugee.

107. The difference between the 'protection' to which Von Doussa J in Thiyagarajah and to which Conclusion 58 refers, on the one hand, and, on the other, 'resettlement' as contemplated by Part IIIA of the Ordinance is, I believe, evident from the following Note :

"It is the return of refugees to their own community or their own integration in a new one which constitutes a permanent or durable solution ... International protection is of an essentially temporary nature and is the sum of all the action which seeks to achieve the admission of a refugee into, and secure his stay, in a country where he or she is not in danger of refoulement and can enjoy basic rights and humane treatment until the above objective is achieved - that of renewed belonging in a community."

("Note on International Protection" UN Document A/AC.96/680, July 15, 1986; referred to by Hathaway in "The Law of Refugee Status", page 189.)

108. What Part IIIA contemplates by use of the phrase 'pending resettlement elsewhere' and the condition of stay that an offer of resettlement shall not without reasonable excuse be refused, is that the successful claimant to refugee status will be permitted to remain in Hong Kong until such time as there is received by him an offer of a permanent and durable solution as opposed to an offer of temporary refuge and protection in a third country (or even in the country from which he originally fled).

109. This goes further than Conclusion 58, for Conclusion 58 is primarily designed for a situation where no durable solution has been found and where refugees feel impelled to leave the country of protection "due to ... the non availability of a long term durable solution" (paragraph (b)) "in order to find durable solutions elsewhere." (paragraph (e))

110. Therefore, had the Director made her decision to remove the applicants on the footing solely that they were protected within the meaning of Conclusion 58 and gone no further, the applicants' claim for relief would have been raised to a solid plateau. How far she did go, I shall shortly consider. But it is as well first to consider what it was she was required to address.

The Director's function

111. Having granted them permission to remain in Hong Kong as refugees pending resettlement, the essential questions which arose were then simply these : Was an offer of resettlement made? If so, did reasons advanced by the applicants for refusal of the offer constitute a reasonable excuse?

112. The collective mind of counsel and the court has been focused heavily on what happened to these applicants before 1995, more especially before they came to Hong Kong. Were they adequately protected? What rights did they have? Did they or did they not have household registration (with which came a host of other rights)? Did they or did they not in the past enjoy a durable solution on the Mainland? But whatever had happened in the past, the first question was whether there was now an offer of resettlement, properly so called? Whether or not someone had slipped through the net of officialdom in the past, the fact that the authorities of the Mainland were now offering to take in these applicants after their own interviewing exercise - a scenario wholly different from the circumstances in which the applicants had first found themselves going to China - meant that in the future they were less likely to escape that net.

113. Once the Director was satisfied that an offer of resettlement had been made, there remained then only one issue for her to deal with, and in the circumstance of this case, that involved an examination mostly of the past. The question was whether the applicants' refusal to go back to the Mainland was a refusal without reasonable excuse; and the applicants say that given their past treatment, and the way in which the double backers were treated, they have such a reasonable excuse.

114. The purpose and objective of Part IIIA of the Ordinance is that those screened in be permitted to stay pending their removal to a place where they will be restored to a settled state or condition, where a durable solution, that is, integration into a new society, is promised; and it is a condition of a refugee's stay here that once the offer comes through, he must go, unless there is reasonable excuse not to go.

115. There are a number of situations in which a removal order made against the background of the present circumstances would be unlawful :

1. If the Director considers that the purpose and limitation of stay has crystallised because the refugee can now be resettled elsewhere but has misunderstood the importance of the word 'resettlement' and the refugee is not being sent to resettle but is to the Director's knowledge being sent without consent to a place of mere temporary refuge, that would not be a proper exercise of the Director's discretion. The order would have been made on an assumption that the refugee had unreasonably refused an offer of resettlement, whereas all that was offered was protection short of resettlement.

2. If an offer of resettlement is in fact made but the Director does not then take into account excuses offered, that would be unlawful.

3. If excuses are offered and the Director makes a decision in respect of that excuse which is irrational, the court would intervene.

116. In deciding whether an offer constitutes an offer of resettlement, the Director is not bound to examine whether the country of proposed resettlement will observe and fulfil each of its Convention obligations. The Director is entitled to assume that a Convention country will, in the fullness of time, do so. All that the Director needs to be satisfied about in the case of a Convention offer is that the offer is one of resettlement and that the refugee has no reasonable ground to refuse it. It is the offer which is important, and if the refugee can show that he is unlikely ever to be resettled in fact, in the sense of being afforded a durable solution, or integration into his new community, then that would constitute a reasonable excuse not to accept it.

The resettlement offer

117. Was there an offer of resettlement? In so far as the applicants contend that there has been no such offer, that contention, with respect, denies reality and the facts known full well to the applicants. I accept that the Notices of Determination did not constitute the offer. But the offer of the Chinese authorities to take back and permit permanent residence to all the applicants, whether verified or not, and on a footing that went well beyond any question of mere temporary refuge; and the contention that the applicants should not be expected to avail themselves of that offer, is what this case is all about. The agreement of the Chinese authorities in March 1995 to take back these applicants for the purpose of resettlement is spelt out in the Respondent's case to the Privy Council, and the judgments of the Court of Appeal in Nguyen Tuan Cuong were suffused with references to China's willingness to resettle these applicants.

118. Bokhary JA (as he then was) at (1996) 6 HKPLR 62, page 74, in a dissenting judgment which favoured the applicants, stated that :

"On the evidence it is plain that by now at least China so unquestioningly properly settles such persons that any such person arriving here from China nowadays would arrive shorn of any Vietnamese refugee status which he or she might once have had .... But is it plain that the position in China has always been what it now is, so that the appellants must have been properly settled in China before coming here?"

And Mortimer JA (as he then was) had this to say (at page 83 of the same report) :

"China has undertaken not only to take the applicants back, but also to accord each household registration with all that that entails. Mr Dykes questions whether these undertakings will be fulfilled. But as undertakings by a sovereign power there is no reason to believe that they will not be honoured once the administrative process has been completed."

119. Nothing could be clearer than that, and it was the applicants' full knowledge that that offer in those terms was alive, and their determination not to accept it, that drove them to fight tooth and nail, and successfully, to resist going back. The fact that the offer came before the latest screening exercise is, for reasons I have explained, not to the point.

The Director's actual approach

120. The question then remaining was whether there was reasonable excuse for refusing to go back, and whether to make the removal order in the light of that refusal; which takes me back to Conclusion 58 and the other reasons advanced by the Director.

121. If in this case all that the Director had done was to ask whether the conditions for return in Conclusion 58 were fulfilled, and had acted on that footing alone, then she would, in my judgment, have acted unlawfully.

122. But that is not what happened, and that is not what the Notice of Determination says.

123. In relation to Conclusion 58, Mr Choy states that :

"The Director has considered the application of Conclusion 58 .... The Director finds that the protection offered by China and UNHCR well exceeded the usual situation which the Executive Committee had in mind in formulating Conclusion 58. It was not merely protection but the provision of a durable solution. ..."

"The Director has also considered the application of the words of Conclusion 58 in respect of after return and 'until a durable solution is found for them'. This again is in the context of the historical and continuous arrangements to deal with this refugee situation on the part of China and the UNHCR. Where in respect of individuals a satisfactory durable solution was granted but abandoned by the individuals concerned the restoration to that solution, in this context, in the Director's view constitutes 'a durable solution found for them'. In this context 'finding a durable solution' includes 'restoring them to durable solution'. In other refugee situations engaging Conclusion 58, this may be different because very often there will be an irregular movement from the country of protection from a situation of temporary protection at a time when durable solutions have not yet been found or fully implemented although planning for them may be more or less advanced. In such cases the context of treating in accordance with recognised basic human rights will often involve doing so in a solution of temporary protection such as a refugee camp. After return to China, within this particular refugee situation, it will be a procedure of restoring the old durable solution and in the case of those who have failed to provide correct details of their identity and place of settlement a preliminary enquiry into that matter. The Director is confident that in that temporary period they will be treated in accordance with their recognised basic human rights and given protection as refugees. The Director also finds that China will provide all returnees with a satisfactory durable solution even in rare cases where it is not possible to reactivate the actual previous durable solution formerly provided."

(see paragraphs 17 and 19, affirmation of 22nd November 1997)

124. The Director was not there merely applying the test of effective protection envisaged by Conclusion 58; she was moving beyond that and considering the prospect of a durable solution; in other words the question of resettlement properly so called.

125. The fact that the Director went beyond a consideration of mere protection to consider also the question of a durable solution is evident from the Notice of Determination itself :

"(a) you were granted a durable solution and protection in China ... ." (emphasis added)

True though it is that that paragraph relates to past treatment and not an assessment as to the future, it is not a paragraph which is to be scrutinised in isolation. It shows that the question of a durable solution, a permanent resettlement, was well in the Director's mind and paragraph (d) of the Notice is, although not easy to interpret, a reference to the future and to the rights which the Director (or Mr Choy) believes the applicants will enjoy after their return. More of paragraph (d) shortly.

126. Was the Director wrong to have addressed Conclusion 58 at all? I think not. It would have been odd had she not done so. The question whether it was reasonable of these applicants to refuse to return to China had, it seems to me to include a consideration of the fact that they were quite different from other refugees who had come to Hong Kong seeking asylum here in the late 1970s and during the 1980s; and she had to ask herself whether there was an element of asylum shopping, and to ask what approach the international community was entitled, indeed encouraged, to adopt in relation to such persons, and to take that into account. That is what Mr Choy did.

127. I am also satisfied that in addressing Conclusion 58 the Director was not saying that the fulfilment of its criteria gave her no choice but to return the applicants to the Mainland. It was a factor amongst others in the whole picture which drove her to make the order which she made.

128. As for the reference in the Notice of Determination to the fact that the applicants have moved in an irregular manner from the Mainland, it is argued that it is illogical to deploy that as a reason for removal, and that the Director is not required to remove those who enter or travel to Hong Kong irregularly. The answer is that the Director does not contend that the irregular manner of movement to Hong Kong required removal; it is a phrase borrowed from Conclusion 58 and was a factor she was entitled to take into account.

Convention Rights

129. As we shall shortly see, the Director thought it incumbent upon herself to consider whether the applicants had or had not enjoyed the benefit of a host of rights, such as the right to employment and education and housing when they were in China, and whether those rights would again be available to them. In my judgment is it not normally incumbent upon the Director when an offer of resettlement is made by a Convention country then to engage in an extensive investigation to ascertain whether the promises of that country to resettle the refugee in the true sense of that word is to be believed. However, if after a sojourn of over ten years a refugee can show that he has enjoyed none of the rights of that ilk - rights which may be termed the rights which the Convention expects signatory states to confer upon refugees taken in for resettlement - then that historical fact may reasonably be deployed in support of refusal to return, although the fact that rights have not been enjoyed in the past does not necessarily mean that they will not, in a new situation, be extended in the future.

Reliance on the Privy Council Judgment

130. That the Director went considerably further than a consideration of Conclusion 58, and the question of bare protection to which that advice or guidance is directed is also evident from paragraph (d) of the Notice of Determination. The Director apparently found that :

"... in terms of the judgment of the majority of the PC in Nguyen Tuan Cuong and others you have lost entitlement to consideration in Hong Kong for resettlement overseas other than in China by return to China."

131. The purport of that sentence is not as clear as one might like. In effect, as I understand it, and as it is explained in the affirmations of Mr Choy, the suggestion is that the Privy Council stated in its judgment that it was only if the claims of the applicants to have been denied the right to work, to marry, to own land, to have household registration and their claims, where advanced, of refoulement were made out that the applicants could resist being returned to China because they had reasonable excuse for refusing China's offer. ... If they are not made out, the individuals remain China recognised refugees but lose their entitlement to resist return to China. (See the affirmation of Mr Choy dated 22nd November 1997, paragraphs 24 and 25).

132. The passage upon which the respondent had evidently been advised to fix her eyes and mind for the purpose of constructing a test to see whether there was reasonable excuse for refusing to take up the offer of resettlement was the following passage from the decision of the majority :

"The first issue on a review is likely to be whether the applicants have lost their status as refugees from Vietnam because of settlement in China. They claim with supporting evidence that in China they have been denied inter alia rights to work, to the education of their families, to marry, to own land, and to legal residence by household registration. There are even claims of a risk of being forced back to Vietnam. These various claims may be contested and it is not the function of their Lordships this appeal to attempt either to resolve them or to forecast how they will be resolved. If however they are made out it will be open to the review board to find that the applicants have never lost their refugee status and perhaps to find further that within the meaning of section 13A(3)(a) they have reasonable excuse for not accepting any offer of resettlement in China. Nor can the possibility of their obtaining resettlement in China. Nor can the possibility of their obtaining resettlement elsewhere be dismissed at this stage as altogether negligible."

133. This passage has been scrutinised in the course of argument before me, and no doubt before that, back and forth, and inside out. I shall have to refer to it again, and will call it 'the first issue passage'. The next following passage in the judgment went thus :

"The cases of Haidekker and Bugdacay raised different issues and include no reasoning that could be decisive of the present case. It is to be noted that Mrs Haidekker was expressly found to have been accepted as a refugee in Australia. The interpretation of Part IIIA of the Ordinance adopted in the present judgment and by the HK courts appears to give effect to the purposes of the Statement of Understanding. The document provides that all refugees will have access to resettlement and recognises the special situation of asylum seekers from Vietnam."

134. The applicants say that the Director has it all wrong; that the first issue passage has been turned into some sort of rigid test whereas it was never posited as a test; and that in any event, it was not the intent of the majority to construct in that passage a test for return to any country; rather it was a list of suggested criteria for deciding whether a claimant had or had not lost refugee status. And in any event it did not, so the argument runs, stipulate that if it were found that the rights had not been denied the applicants, they had no entitlement to be considered for resettlement elsewhere.

135. I doubt a number of matters concerning the respondent's approach to the first issue passage. First, I doubt that in the penning of that passage it was ever envisaged by their Lordships that it would be placed under the microscope to the extent that it has, or that it was intended to be a directive about questions which had to be asked in this case. Secondly, I doubt that their Lordships were addressing the question which the Director thinks they were addressing. I think that they were addressing, not the question whether the applicants had lost the right to be resettled internationally, as the Director suggests, but whether they were still Convention refugees, even though I do not, with respect, believe that the questions posed could answer that question.

136. The majority of their Lordships must have been proceeding on the footing that permission to remain as refugees had been refused, or that it was going to be refused, by the Director; and that the matter was then to be considered by the RSRB. The first question to be considered by the Director would have to be whether the applicants were Convention refugees as that is defined by Article 1A of the Convention; in other words, whether they were persons who were unable or unwilling to avail themselves of the protection of the country of their nationality owing to a well founded fear of persecution. Given the circumstances in which these applicants left Vietnam, and that those circumstances were not in real issue, it was highly likely that the Director would find that the conditions of that particular Article were satisfied. Therefore, the first (real) issue - indeed, as I see it, the only remaining issue as to status - was likely to be whether they had lost their status as refugees because of events subsequent to departure from Vietnam. In the event of any adverse decision, that is, that they had indeed lost their refugee statues by operation of Article 1C of the Convention (e.g. voluntary reacquisition of nationality, or voluntary re-availment of protection of the country of nationality), that then would be a decision which could be the subject of appeal to an examination by the RSRB. That is what was likely to be the first issue on a review. If status was lost by virtue of a provision of the Convention, then the person was no longer a refugee for the purposes of the Ordinance. The claims to which the first issue passage refers - denial of their right to work, education and so on, could only be relevant to that loss under the Convention provisions if under Article 1E; in other words if the Privy Council took the view that those rights were rights which "are attached to the possession of the nationality of that country" and that Article 1E was a loss of status provision. Although in my respectful opinion, Article 1E is not a loss of status provision, I nonetheless believe that their Lordships had that in mind in the first issue passage, a view which I believe to be fortified by the fact that it is expressly contemplated that the Board might perhaps 'further' find that there was a reasonable excuse for not accepting an offer of resettlement in China.

137. In saying that, I am aware that in one of the many affirmations filed by Mr Choy he says :

"In using S.13A to land ECVII's the Director has found them to be 'refugees from Vietnam in China'. She then found them to be China recognised refugees who have lost entitlement to overseas resettlement because of former protection and resettlement in China who must therefore be returned to China."

138. I do not think that that means that in no circumstances was an alternative course available; but rather that in the circumstances which emerged, that was the only feasible course to take. Mr Marshall, on behalf of the Director has made it quite clear that were a realistic and ready alternative to present itself, the Director would not, even at this stage, shut his eyes to that alternative.

139. But the question is whether in the event the Director has misdirected herself as to her obligations; as to the rights of the applicants; and whether she has taken into account irrelevant considerations; or otherwise unlawfully fettered her discretion - and it is on this last basis that the case is put - that by assuming that the Privy Council was saying something which in fact it was not, and acting accordingly, she was fettering her discretion.

140. If an applicant had in the event lost entitlement to be considered for resettlement other than in China, then there is no relevant error by the Director, and if the Director has read too much into the Privy Council's judgment, that cannot alter the fact - if it is a fact - that the Director's approach was nonetheless, as a matter of law, correct.

141. The facts found by the Director were in essence these : that the applicants had lived on the Mainland for many years; that they were recognised there as refugees; that they were entitled to reside there; that the authorities on the Mainland would take them back; and that the PRC is a Convention country. It is nowhere contended that by reason of treatment in China they are refugees in relation to China. The minority in the Privy Council was satisfied that on the evidence, "it was plain that China unquestioningly properly resettles former Vietnamese residents returned to China from Hong Kong." The Director made extensive findings both about the treatment of the applicants when they had lived in China, whether their claims to denial of rights were justified, and as to a future durable solution. Assuming for immediate purposes that those findings are not impeachable, I fail to see from whence arises the obligation to resettle them elsewhere; or to consider them for resettlement elsewhere.

142. In my judgment, once the Director is satisfied that resettlement is offered in a third country and that there exists no reasonable excuse for refusing the offer of resettlement, the Director is entitled to return or send the migrant to that country. If that proposition holds goods, there cannot be at the same time an obligation to consider resettlement in a fourth country. The Director may give consideration to such resettlement; and the migrant may advance a case if he wishes. But there can in law be no obligation to consider resettlement elsewhere.

143. If there were such an obligation, where would it end? Would the Director then be required to consider all countries which were listed by an applicant, await queries from those countries; answer the queries; wait for rejections, and then consider yet further representations by the migrant; whilst all the while the country of first asylum is ready - a convention country perhaps as in the case, in respect of which there is no good reason to question its bona fides - to accept the refugee? If, as I am satisfied is the case, there is no obligation upon the Director in such circumstances to consider further avenues of resettlement, it follows also that the migrant then enjoys no entitlement to such consideration; and that is all that paragraph (d) of the determination states. The fact - if it is a fact - that that is not what the Privy Council were saying in the "first issue" passage is then neither here nor there.

V. ISSUES ABOUT PROCEDURE

Procedural fairness

144. Quite apart from the complaints that the Director has unlawfully deprived the applicants of a right of review to the RSRB; was not entitled to use section 13E in the circumstances in which it was used; and has taken into account irrelevant considerations whilst also failing to consider relevant ones, there are attacks upon the fairness of the procedures adopted by the Director and those other officials engaged upon this entire exercise. There are some allegations about procedural unfairness which still wait in the wings, in that there is pending an application for substantial amendments to allege bad faith.

145. Of the five questions which were drawn for my determination at this stage of the application, it is the last three that relate to the question of procedure. As with most of the other questions posed, argument has not always remained within the strict confines of the questions. The grounds of complaint have traversed broader terrain, and inevitably we have strayed into allied grounds of complaint, an event which was inevitable, I think, and not inappropriate in so far as they have at some stage to be addressed.

146. The argument of the applicants on matters procedural is to the following effect. The Director was obliged to decide whether there was any reasonable ground in the case of each applicant for the implicit refusal to go back to China. The Director was obliged to consider whether Mainland China could properly be called a place of resettlement. If there was cause to believe that the PRC would not comply with its treaty obligations under the Convention towards these refugees, and that they had been poorly treated in the past, then the PRC was not properly to be regarded as a place of resettlement, and there was good excuse for the refusal of the applicants to go back there. In such circumstances a removal order ought not to have been made. In coming to his conclusions about these matters, Mr Choy had relied heavily on evidence in his possession about conditions on the Mainland after the arrival of refugees there from Vietnam, whether they were, as a matter of course, given household registration, from which registration many rights and benefits flowed; what their circumstances were, and whether there was any danger of refoulement to Vietnam. To the extent that this evidence - country condition evidence - conflicted with the stories given by the applicants he assumed, it is said, that the applicants must have fabricated their accounts. He also made findings adverse to their credibility because of disparities between their arrival statements - that is, statements made when, some years ago, they first arrived in Hong Kong - and their screening statements, that is, statements or answers given by them in the recent screening exercise with which this case is concerned.

147. The suggestion of procedural unfairness is multifaceted :

1. that country condition evidence upon which the Director intended to, and did, rely was never put to the applicants for their comments, or to enable them to adduce contrary evidence, a failure all the more important it is suggested, because the Director has relied on country condition evidence in assessing credibility disregarding, wholly or largely, the circumstances of individual cases;

2. that the applicants were given no opportunity to review arrival statements, or the statements compiled in the screening interviews, nor to comment upon alleged discrepancies between the two; and they say that fairness required that they should have been given that opportunity, not least because the arrival statements were made for a purpose quite different from that for which the 1997 exercises were designed. There is an allied complaint, which is that the applicants' solicitors were denied sight of the screening interview notes after the interviews had taken place and before the Director made her decision; and

3. that the Director should have permitted the applicants their say after the section 13A decision and before the section 13E decision, advising them at that point that she was considering making an order under section 13E. But she did not, nor did she advise them that it was proposed to conflate the two decisions. The applicants, it is said, were unaware when they were being interviewed that what was in reality at stake was a section 13E removal decision.

The evidence

148. I have been presented with about 150 pages of affirmations - exhibits excluded - from Mr Choy alone, and they are but a part of those originally placed before me at the interlocutory hearing. Much of that evidence is in the form of legal argument, and it has been a task all to itself to sift assertions of fact from legal submissions. Then there is a plethora of evidence on behalf of the applicants and their advisers. I think it appropriate to attempt a summary.

149. Mr Choy deposes to the fact that he has been involved as an immigration officer with the Vietnamese refugee question for many years. In August 1993 he became Assistant Director in charge of the Vietnamese Refugees Branch of the Immigration Department. At the beginning of 1994 he visited Beihai where he says he acquired further expertise about the history of, and current developments concerning, the settlement of those 286,000 refugees from Vietnam who were in China. He was engaged in discussion with Mainland authorities about the return of 'ECVIIs', as they were then called. He accompanied returnees from Hong Kong to the Mainland. He became acquainted with officials from the Ministry of Civil Affairs and other Mainland departments. He has attended conferences in 1996 and 1997 also attended by the UNHCR and regional governments, and he has visited resettlement projects and farms on the Mainland. He says he has specialist knowledge of country conditions relating to these people.

150. The evidence is that since the resumption of the exercise of sovereignty over Hong Kong by the PRC, levels of co-operation with Mainland officials has increased. In 1994 all 'ECVIIs' in Hong Kong, then numbering 502, were interviewed in Hong Kong by a team of Mainland officials. Those officials informed Mr Choy that there was a problem about verifying the place of registration or settlement on the Mainland in respect of those who had remained in Hong Kong, and that that problem was created by the fact that those who remained were not forthcoming about such details, though the officials were confident that once they were returned and incentive to withhold that information was gone, the correct place of settlement would then reveal itself.

151. He refers to the amounts of money spent by the Chinese Government upon those who came from Vietnam in the late 1970s; to the comments and evidence of UNHCR representatives familiar with the problem; evidence which he has about what happened to them after they crossed the border; the deployment of troops and check points.

152. Several thousand refugees from Vietnam in China (or ECVIIs) came to Hong Kong during the same time span as in the case of these applicants, and by August 1995 only 270 remained; the rest had been returned to the Mainland. That means that Mr Choy has had the opportunity to ascertain and monitor what has happened to those who have returned.

153. The importance of household registration is manifest from the following evidence of Mr Choy :

"Household registration in China applies to all citizens and residents and one of its main objectives is to prevent mass movement from country to city and from poorer areas to development areas..... [It] is the key to registration of births and marriages. With household registration goes also the issue of identity cards which in turn provide official freedom of movement. With household registration goes access to education, access to public health services and access to gainful employment."

He then contends that :

"the refugees from Vietnam who were settled had household registration or entitlement to it. Consequently they were treated in the same way as Chinese citizens except for the right to participate in elections."

154. He asserts that the system of registration was a very strict system and views with great scepticism claims that people escaped the net. However the lure of moving to areas more economically attractive meant that there were those who moved, even though that had not managed to transfer their household registration to the place to which they were moving. The proportion of China's population as a whole that floated in this way is said to have been very large.

155. It is said that the household registration system is now not as tight as once it was, and that those, in certain areas at least, who have employment may obtain a work permit even though without household registration in that place, but may not apply for government jobs or work in state owned enterprises. The applicants say that they have not been registered and that the evidence of registration and the tightness of the system is much exaggerated.

156. Mr Choy avers to his belief that as a general rule those ethnic Chinese who fled from Vietnam to China were registered. Nonetheless he says that he has considered each case individually. He contends that if he were to find that someone had slipped through the net, he would not hesitate to find that that person is not at this stage a refugee recognised and protected in China as such; in which case he would consider that person entitled to resettlement overseas and be allowed to stay in Hong Kong pending such resettlement. Nor he says has he taken "any proposition based on country conditions as pre-determinative of all individual decisions. What I have done with country conditions evidence is to use it where it is appropriate to evaluate aspects of claims made in order to assess whether the facts alleged are credible."

157. He asserts that country condition evidence is a valid tool by which to test the credibility of an applicant's contentions.

158. None of the applicants has been naturalised as a Chinese citizen. I do not know whether any has applied. But, according to the evidence, naturalisation will be available to those who want it, once there is resolved between the central government and the Vietnamese authorities the question of return to Vietnam of those who might wish to return. The evidence is that the Vietnamese will not take back those settled as refugees in China. Prospective returnees are reluctant to commit themselves to return without knowing whether in Vietnam they will be accorded household registration. The central government's intention is that those who wish to return to Vietnam should do so after an agreement with Vietnam, and that those who thereafter choose to remain in China will be granted Chinese citizenship.

159. In March 1995, Mainland authorities accepted that all remaining ECVIIs in Hong Kong were Indo-Chinese refugees from Vietnam who had resettled on the Mainland. They have recently confirmed their willingness to take them back and to resettle them and protect them from refoulement. This applies even to those, if there are any, who slipped the net of household registration. Mr Choy affirms that the Director of Immigration as well as the Security Bureau accept that the Mainland " ... will act as it has declared it will." It is said that the UNHCR continues to be involved in the resettlement process, and the evidence is to the effect that if returned, their return will be monitored by the UNHCR.

160. Mr Choy finds that the central government has taken its Convention obligations seriously, and says that that is the view shared by UNHCR officials. The evidence is that the UNHCR has monitored returns of ECVIIs from Japan, Australia and Hong Kong. He says that the view that refugees would have evaded or have been missed by the web of Chinese authority is generally speaking not believable. So too he says it is unbelievable that the Chinese authorities refouled refugees who had been settled. He also addresses in detail the problems which those who have doubled back to Hong Kong say that they encountered upon their return to the Mainland.

161. There is placed before me evidence which Mr Choy had before him, namely, the evidence of the UNHCR given to the Australian Senate in February 1995, which details the extent of UNHCR involvement and monitoring by the UNHCR in China of the resettlement of Indo-Chinese refugees in the Mainland. It describes the programme instigated by the Chinese authorities for the absorption of these people, and it concludes that 'as a group these people have been properly taken care of by the Chinese. The Chinese have lived up to their responsibilities under the Convention.' Monitoring has included monitoring those who have left China and have been returned. As for household registration, he (the representative) says that "we can start with the assumption that the overwhelming majority of this caseload were registered at some point."

162. The evidence filed by the applicants is to the following effect :

1. That many ethnic Chinese who fled Vietnam were not resettled as refugees in China, and there is evidence given to the Australian Senate by an organisation called 'Coalition for Asylum Seekers,' who said that such people were not given the same rights as Chinese nationals. The allegation is made that the country conditions to which Mr Choy refers relates to those accepted as refugees but it is said that the applicants were not settled as refugees. They were merely illegal residents, a status not of their choosing.

2. That the applicants were not protected from refoulement. They were regarded as illegal immigrants liable to expulsion especially in the case of those who did not have, or could not prove, household registration. It is said that the risk of refoulement is a remaining risk.

3. That those applicants who were sent back to China were not in fact resettled. They were not, even then, given household registration. They were just given nominal sums of money and sent on their way.

4. That those recognised as refugees have not been given naturalisation, a breach it is said of Article 34 of the Convention.

5. That those who resided on the Mainland were not there accorded the rights accorded Chinese nationals; and were not granted minimum rights to which they were entitled under the Convention. The contention is that there is no reason now to suppose that their treatment will improve upon their return, so that their refusal to go back is eminently reasonable.

The Procedure Adopted

163. Each applicant was interviewed by an immigration officer, with an interpreter present. The respondent says that after the interviews, what had been said by an interviewee was read back. It is asserted that previous inconsistencies were put to applicants for their comments. It is also argued that the applicants were fully aware of the issues at stake. Interview notes were placed by the immigration officer before a senior immigration officer, with a summary and recommendations. Arrival statements and other material were attached. The Senior Immigration officer passed the papers to the Chief Immigration Officer with his comments, and the interview notes, and the Chief Immigration Officer's recommendations were passed to Mr Choy. Mr Choy says that he considered each case, did not always agree with comments, but he endorsed the conclusion reached in each case. All of the officers concerned were trained in country conditions in China relating to the reception and settlement of refugees from Vietnam in 1978 and since.

164. I have had placed before me some of the completed interview forms used in the course of the screening process. The notes made on those which I have seen are detailed, and the forms have clearly been carefully devised to cater especially for the particular problem of these people from Vietnam who have lived in China. They include also space for information about overseas relatives and connections.

Law

165. Those within government departments who are charged with the making of administrative decisions make those decisions against a backdrop of multifaceted policy considerations, historical information, contact with other departments and outside agencies, and first hand experience of a particular issue or problem; considerations, information, contact, and experience which the courts do not possess, and the officials are entrusted by the legislature to make such decisions. So unless it be shown that the administrators have acted beyond the powers conferred by law the courts have no right to intervene. The court does not place itself behind the desk of the decision maker to ascertain whether the court would have arrived at the same conclusion.

166. But when it comes to the decision making process a court is entitled to judge whether the decision making process was fair. That is not to say that perfection is required, or indeed that it suffices for an applicant to show that something more fair might have been devised :

"My Lords, I think it unnecessary to refer by name or to quote from, any of the often-cited authorities in which the courts have explained what is essentially an intuitive judgment. They are far too well known. From them I derive that (1) where an Act of Parliament confers an administrative power there is a presumption that it will be exercised in an manner which is fair in all the circumstances. (2) The standards of fairness are not immutable. They may change with the passage of time, both in the general and in their application to decisions of a particular type. (3) The principles of fairness are not to be applied by rote identically in every situation. What fairness demands is dependent on the context of the decision, and this is to be taken into account in all its aspects. (4) An essential feature of the context is the statute which creates the discretion, as regards both its language and the shape of the legal and administrative system within which the decision is taken. (5) Fairness will very often require that a person who may be adversely affected by the decision will have an opportunity to make representations on his own behalf either before the decision is taken with a view to producing a favourable result; or after it is taken, with a view to procuring its modification; or both. (6) Since the person affected usually cannot make worthwhile representations without knowing what factors may weight against his interests fairness will very often require that he is informed of the gist of the case which he has to answer.

My Lords, the Secretary of State properly accepts that whatever the position may have been in the past these principles apply in their generality to prisoners, including persons serving life sentences for murder, although their particular situation and the particular statutory regime under which they are detained may require the principles to be applied in a special way. Conversely the respondents acknowledge that it is not enough for them to persuade the court that some procedure other than the one adopted by the decision-maker would be better or more fair. Rather, they must show that the procedure is actually unfair. The court must constantly bear in mind that it is to the decision maker, not the court, that Parliament has entrusted not only the making of the decision but also the choice as to how the decision is made."

(per Lord Mustill in R v Home Secretary Ex p Doody 1994 1AC 531 at 560 and 561).

167. I have been referred to judgments of the High Court of Australia in Kioa v West (1985) 159CLR 550. There, Mason J (as he then was) traced the shift from the traditional reference to the rules of 'natural justice,' - more apposite to judicial or quasi judicial proceedings - to the more appropriate reference now used, namely, that of a duty to act fairly or to accord procedural fairness :

"The law has now developed to a point where it may be accepted that there is a common law duty to act fairly, in the sense of according procedural fairness, in the making of administrative decision which affect rights, interests and legitimate expectations, subject only to the clear manifestation of a contrary statutory intention. It seems that as early as 1911 Lord Loreburn LC understood that this was the law when he spoke of the obligation to 'fairly listen to both sides' being a duty lying upon everyone who decides anything': Board of Education v Rice."

"... What is appropriate in terms of natural justice depends on the circumstances of the case and they will include inter alia the nature of the inquiry, the subject matter, and the rules under which the decision-maker is acting.

In this respect the expression 'procedural fairness' more aptly conveys the notion of a flexible obligation to adopt fair procedures which are appropriate and adapted to the circumstances of the particular case. The statutory power must be exercised fairly, i.e., in accordance with procedures that are fair to the individual considered in the light of the statutory requirements, the interests of the individual and the interests and purposes, whether public or private, which the statute seeks to advance or protect or permits to be taken into account as legitimate considerations: cf. Salemi [No.2], per Jacobs J.

When the doctrine of natural justice or the duty to act fairly in its application to administrative decision-making is so understood, the need for a strong manifestation of contrary statutory intention in order for it to be excluded becomes apparent. The critical question in most cases is not whether the principles of natural justice apply. It is : what does the duty to act fairly require in the circumstances of the particular case? ..."

(see Kiao at pages 584 and 585).

168. In the quest for the answer to that question in this case, I have had the advantage of sample cases placed before me, by which I mean the cases of several of the applicants; Mr Choy's conclusions; his analysis of the accounts given, of the arrival and screening statements, of the country condition evidence which he has applied; and the affirmations of several of the applicants and their advisers in which they deal with what it is they might or would have said had they been given an opportunity to do so. The case of the applicant Nghiem Kiet is but one example. He arrived in 1991 in Hong Kong. He made a written statement then signed by himself above a declaration that it was true and that he knew he could add to or alter it. Mr Choy has inferred from that statement that that applicant was thereby giving an account of having been settled near the border with Vietnam , in Gaunxi Province, after he and his grandmother had fled in 1978. His later statements assert that he was never settled and that he and his grandmother lived a furtive existence for years on end, hiding and resorting to bribery of officials. Mr Choy's explanation of his conclusions is subject to attack in several affirmations filed by that applicant, suggesting in particular that statements attributed to him in the arrival statement were not made by him; that the inconsistencies suggested are not in fact inconsistencies; and that country condition evidence upon which Mr Choy has relied is inaccurate.

169. Unless it be shown that Mr Choy has not in fact approached the analysis of this and similar cases in the manner he describes, or that he or his officers have acted in bad faith - and it is intended by the applicants to pursue that allegation, if leave to amend is granted - then it seems to me that the procedure adopted and his approach is not shown to be lacking in due rationality or to be in any way unfair.

170. In the case of Nghiem Kiet, Mr Choy has taken into account a host of considerations : evidence before him from which he was entitled to infer that on arrival the applicant was providing a story which strongly suggested settlement in China in 1978 or thereabouts, near the border with Vietnam, and from which, when taken together with his knowledge of what happened to ethnic Chinese who crossed the border in that location at that time, he was entitled to conclude that the applicant and his grandmother had then been resettled. He places this against those facts in the screening statement which he views as inconsistent, and then goes on to find that Mr Nghiem Kiet has been recognised as a refugee, granted a durable solution and granted protection, and he states that China will accept him back, where he will be accorded as durable solution. There is also evidence that in the course of screening interviews, inconsistencies were put.

171. What all this then amounts to, if true, is that Mr Choy, a senior immigration official has based his decisions in each case upon a number of considerations and against a complex tapestry, which includes his accumulated knowledge of the history of flight from Vietnam to China, the reception of those who fled, their treatment after 1979, extensive contacts with officials, his own visits to the Mainland, talks with refugees; contacts with the UNHCR about this self same problem; literature available to him; evidence given to the Australian Senate; a conclusion that as a general rule - allowing of some, though few, exceptions - escaping the registration net for years on end, as these applicants suggest, was unlikely; written arrival statements signed by each applicant and taken by trained officers upon whose integrity he was entitled to rely; and extensive interviews recorded in writing with each applicant upon screening, in respect of whom it is said inconsistencies were put then and there.

172. To require in these circumstances that before moving to his conclusions the Director ought to have rehearsed his reasoning for the benefit of the applicants prior to his decision would, in my judgment, be to craft a counsel of perfection which would border upon artificiality.

Country conditions

173. It does not need the promulgation of Conclusion 58 - with its reference to the growing problem of irregular movement and misrepresentations by asylum seekers - to bring home the importance of an objective credibility test in cases such as the present, an importance emphasised by paragraphs 41 and 42 of the Handbook on Procedures and Criteria for Determining Refugee Status, issued in 1979 by the Office of the UNHCR :

" Due to the importance that the definition [of 'refugee'] attaches to the subjective element, an assessment of credibility is indispensable where the case is not sufficiently clear from the facts on record. It will be necessary to take into account the personal family background of the applicant, his membership of a particular racial, religious, national, social or political group, his own interpretation of his situation, and his personal experiences - in other words, everything that may serve to indicate that the predominant motive for his application is fear. .....

As regards the objective element, it is necessary to evaluate the statements made by the applicant. The competent authorities that are called upon to determine refugee status are not required to pass judgment on conditions in the applicant's country of origin. The applicant's statements cannot, however, be considered in the abstract, and must be viewed in the context of the relevant background situation. A knowledge of conditions in the applicant's country of origin - while not a primary objective - is an important element in assessing the applicant's credibility. In general, the applicant's fear should be considered well-founded if he can establish, to a reasonable degree, that his continued stay in his country of origin has become intolerable to him for the reasons stated in the definition, or would for the same reasons be intolerable if he returned there."

174. Any machine established to ensure effective immigration control will develop, in conjunction with other government departments and agencies, a wealth of information by which can be tested the veracity of claims made by would be immigrants and visitors. Each immigration official will have, to some extent or another, such information available to him, to which he will add such experience as he himself gains during the years of his service. The assessment of the credibility of statements made by those who apply for visas, entry permits, residence status, refugee status, identity cards, change of conditions of stay, lies at the very core of the immigration officer's job. And in exercising that core function he brings to bear upon that assessment facts which he can assume to be safe; facts well established by years of official information gathering; by requests for information from officials of other countries, from the United Nations, and from reports of immigration and other government officials of the recipient country who have themselves had occasion to acquire some expertise on the subject. Country condition information falls within this category. It is not information personal to the traveller; or to the refugee. It is information of general application, which by reason of its provenance, the fact of its collection by government departments from sources which the authorities consider to be reliable, and the acquisition of specialist knowledge by an individual officer, is a valid basis against which to test contentions of migrants, so long as the information is properly applied to the circumstances of a particular case. It is information to be distinguished from information about or relating to an individual applicant, which is personal to an applicant. Information which is personal to a migrant and his circumstances is most unlikely to have been gathered in the same way; and information personal to him or her is, by definition, information which he or she is best placed to confirm or contest, or qualify.

175.Kiao, to which I have made earlier reference is a case readily distinguishable on its facts from the present case, not least because it related to temporary residents who had overstayed and were, accordingly, prohibited or illegal immigrants. A court's expectation of procedural benefits is likely to be greater in the case of those lawfully in a territory, (as are these applicants once permitted to remain as refugees), than in the case of those who remain unlawfully. Nonetheless, in the judgment of Mason J (as he then was) at pages 586 and 587, there emerges this distinction between the opportunity to respond in respect of information personal to an applicant, and information which is not :

" But what does procedural fairness entail in its application to the exercise of the discretionary power conferred by s.18? It would be going too far to say that fairness requires that in all cases in which a deportation order is to be made notice should be given to the prohibited immigrant of the intention to make such an order and of the grounds upon which it is to be made. The Migration Act plainly contemplates that in the ordinary course of events a deportation order will be made ex parte. And the prohibited immigrant may be a person who, intent upon remaining in Australia without lawful right or title, has evaded the authorities and will continue to do so. He may even be a person who has been required under s.31A to leave, but has declined to do so. To insist that he be notified of the intention to make a deportation order would serve only to facilitate evasion and frustrate the objects of the statute. These considerations indicate that, in the case where the reason for the making of the order is that the person concerned is a prohibited immigrant, the dictates of natural justice and fairness do not require the giving of any advance notice of the proposed making of the order: Salemi [No.2], and Ratu.

But it may be otherwise where the reasons for the making of the order travel beyond the fact that the person concerned is a prohibited immigrant and those reasons are personal to him, as, e.g., where they relate to his conduct, health, or associations. And if the order is made in consequence of a refusal to grant a further entry permit to him, the reasons on which that refusal is based may require that as a matter of fairness the person affected should have the chance of responding to them.

However, this is not to say that fairness will necessarily, or even generally, require that an applicant for a further entry permit be given an opportunity to be heard even where deportation may follow from its refusal. The grant of an entry permit is a matter of discretion. Indeed, the cancellation of a temporary entry permit is expressed to be a matter of absolute discretion: s.7(1). In the ordinary course of granting or refusing entry permits there is no occasion for the principles of natural justice to be called into play. The applicant is entitled to support his application by such information and material as he thinks appropriate and he cannot complain if the authorities reject his application because they do not accept, without further notice to him, what he puts forward. But if in fact the decision-maker intends to reject the application by reference to some consideration personal to the applicant on the basis of information obtained from another source which has not been dealt with by the applicant in his application there may be a case for saying that procedural fairness requires that he be given an opportunity of responding to the matter : In re H.K. (An Infant)."

176. The point there made was echoed by the Federal Court of Australia in Sinnathamby & Others v Minister for Immigration & Ethnic Affairs (1986) 66 ALR 501, page 506 :

"... There is, for example, no general requirement that an applicant be informed of the sources of all the information which the Department receives concerning his or her case, or the content of that information. As a general rule, when some consideration personal to the applicant is to be taken into account against him or her the rules of natural justice require that the applicant be given a chance to comment or contradict: see Kiao, per Mason J at p 348."

177. None of this is to say that there will not be cases where an item of evidence not personal to an applicant but nonetheless affecting the decision, evidence obtained from an objective and reliable source, need not be disclosed to an affected party. But in my judgment it was not required in this case.

178. The range of country condition evidence was very wide indeed, as were the sources. None of it was personal to the applicants or to any of them. The sources to which the Director resorted were not just those proffered by the authorities of the countries against which the applicants had a grievance, and suggested were unreliable. The information was from the UNHCR; from evidence given in Australia and from the personal expertise developed by Mr Choy himself. The Respondent's list in the Nguyen Tuan Cuong proceedings included the proceedings before the Australian Senate, so that the applicants' solicitors were aware of the UNHCR stand that one "could start with the assumption that the overwhelming majority of this caseload were registered at some point ."

179. Indeed in evidence filed for the purposes of this application those acting for the applicants, who are solicitors very well versed in refugee matters, and have acted for the applicants throughout the time during which interviews were conducted, have referred to the fact that evidence was presented by the applicants before the Privy Council of the distinction to be made between refugees settled in China and those from Vietnam whose presence was merely tolerated. That is a reference to testimony given by non-governmental refugee associations before the Australian Senate, evidence Mr Choy had before he made his decision. So that point and the distinction and the importance of it was one of which the applicants were well aware considerably before the screening exercise, and was a distinction which they knew was or had been before Mr Choy. Furthermore, country condition information upon which the respondent relied in relation to double backers, or a summary of it, was presented in writing to those acting for the applicants in correspondence in July 1996. Nor is it to be forgotten that central to the Director's decision to order their removal was the question about what was to happen to these applicants in the future if they were returned to China. The issue whether they had or had not been registered in the past was not, in other words, the be all and end all of the matter, for there was an undertaking by the Mainland authorities that they would accept all these applicants back, and that upon their return they would be granted household registration. Against the backdrop of these considerations, I am of the view that the failure of the Director to invite comments by the applicants upon country condition evidence which Mr Choy had at his disposal did not constitute procedural unfairness.

The non-provision of previous statements

180. The fourth question which I have undertaken to tackle is this :

"Was the Director of Immigration - whether by Mr Choy or through other immigration officers - required to provide the Applicants with copies of previous statements made by them (whether made upon arrival or later) which were used in the decision making process by the Director, so as to enable the applicants to comment upon them, or to make such corrections as they proposed ?"

181. The applicants' discontent here results from the use by Mr Choy, in arriving at his decisions, of suggested disparities between arrival statements and screening statements, without first providing the individual applicant with copies of earlier statements to enable him or her to comment upon or correct them; an omission which is said to be demonstrably unfair when it is remembered that the earlier statements were made in the course of a different exercise and many years ago. It was also unfair, they say, to deny their solicitors' request for copies of interview notes made during the screening exercise, before a decision was made by the Director - a facility formerly accorded to those, and other, solicitors in refugee screening exercises.

182. The response by the respondent to the latter complaint was that the previous practice was a facility not offered to applicants for refugee status as a whole, but only to those who happened to be represented by solicitors and was a legacy of a period before 'readback' became general practice.

183. Question 4 is perhaps too broad. Procedural fairness does not come in packages graded for use according to category of administrative function. What is fair or not fair depends on the facts of the individual case. Nonetheless there is an extensive history to these proceedings and behind the interviewing process, which is common to all applicants, and I have in addition a considerable body of information in this application about the procedures used, so that I think it feasible to answer the particular question which is posed.

184. It is hardly unknown in immigration cases that some migrants will, with the passage of time, put forward inconsistent or increasingly inflated accounts. So long as the interviews are fairly conducted, enabling the interviewee fully to put his story, and the answers accurately recorded, there is no general rule that material inconsistencies have to be put at all before they might be used by a Director of Immigration, or by a Secretary of State, as a test of credibility. (see for example, R v Secretary of State of the Home Department ex parte K [1990] Imm AR 393; and R v Secretary of State for the Home Department ex p H Bolart [1991] Imm AR 117). I am told however that in the 10 cases deployed in these proceedings by the applicants as sample cases of procedures used, previous suggested inconsistencies were put to them in the course of the interviews - that at any rate is the evidence of the respondent, and may very well not be accepted by the applicants concerned.

185. The unusual feature of the screening interviews in this case is that they were conducted after the applicants' plight had been the subject of prolonged litigation, and after the Privy Council had spelt out the issues or the key issues to which the interviewing exercise was directed. Although the applicants were not, as far as I am aware, represented when they first landed in Hong Kong and made their arrival statements, they were represented throughout the Nguyen Tuan Cuong proceedings, and since, by solicitors who were steeped in the case, and are experts in the immigration laws of Hong Kong and their implementation in relation to asylum seekers. There can in my view have been no doubt in the mind of any applicant but that the subject matter of the screening interview was to be his or her contention that he or she had never been settled or resettled on the Mainland, had not been given household registration, and had not been accorded certain rights on the Mainland; or that in the course of the interviews searching questions would be asked to test the credibility of their accounts; and that credibility was to be a main item on the agenda. In so far as there may be some suggestion that there should have been advance warning of the intention to examine earlier statements as a guide to credibility, it is a suggestion which, with respect, ignores the obvious requirement to conduct a test of credibility which is meaningful, and it ignores reality too, namely, that no-one versed in immigration procedures, as were the applicants' solicitors, would expect anything else.

186. Where determination of credibility is the cornerstone of an exercise, the examiner must be permitted to have at his disposal a mechanism to test it which is fair to the interviewee, certainly - but which is also effective. And the fact is that if there emerges in the course of the interview a statement by the interviewee which is at odds on a material point with an earlier statement, or an assertion which one might have expected to have been made at an early stage but which was not, a procedure which invites the interviewee to go away and make representations a couple of weeks later about the disparity, or about the omission, is, in reality and as a general rule, unlikely to be an effective barometer of the truth. And, similarly, if the arrival statement is sent to the applicant in advance of the interview "to comment or make such corrections as they propose", that too may prove less helpful to the credibility test, particularly if the interviewee knows in advance what the factual issue at interview is to be, than would an immediate reaction to a question posed at the interview itself. Much the same sentiment is expressed in Director of Immigration & Another v Le Tu Phuong & Another [1994] 2 HKLR p.212-223 by Litton JA (as he then was), albeit in relation to a different factual context.

187. Whether there were disparities and whether it can be shown that an obviously wrong conclusion was drawn from them in a particular case is another point. But I am quite satisfied that unless it can clearly be demonstrated in an individual case to have been necessary or warranted, there was in my judgment no general obligation in these cases to provide the applicants with copies of earlier statements to enable the applicants either in advance of the interviews or after them, to make comments or corrections. The interview notes I have seen evidence lengthy and thorough interviews, and in fact inconsistencies or omission put at interview. That is enough in my judgment, and there was no need then to go further, or to notify the solicitors that the Director intended to rely on previous statements as relevant to credibility, or to send them interview notes before the Director made her decision. In other words, the answer to Question 4 is, in my judgment, 'No'.

The Fifth Question : Section 13E and prior notice

188. The fifth question posed is this :

"Was the Director obliged to notify the applicants of her proposed decision to make removal orders under section 13E(1) Immigration Ordinance, Cap.115 and state the grounds, and provide documents relied upon, for making that decision so as to provide the applicants with an opportunity to make representations against the making of the order?"

189. The Notices of Determination evidenced two distinct decisions - the decision under section 13A that the applicants be classified as refugees and permitted to remain in Hong Kong pending resettlement, and the decision under section 13E to remove them to the Mainland. It is common ground that there was no gap between notification of the two decisions. The procedure was conflated in the sense that the screening interviews were directed at both issues.

190. Mr Dykes, S.C., on behalf of the applicants, insists that the procedure adopted was unfair, or rather that the facilities not offered to the applicants constituted procedural unfairness. He urges me to conclude that procedural fairness required that the applicants be heard after the first decision and before the second, not least because the legislation enabled two different categories of official to make the two decisions - an immigration officer under section 13A, and the Director under section 13E, meaning in the latter instance any member of the Immigration Service of the rank of senior principal immigration officer or above. The applicants, it is said, were entitled to address the actual decision maker, and he - Mr Choy in this case - should at least have notified the applicants of the decision he was minded to make under section 13E, the recommendations which had been advanced by immigration officers, and the grounds upon which he intended to decide against the applicants. In the event, the argument runs, the decision maker under section 13E has given ear to one source of information - the immigration officers - but not to the other important source, namely, the applicants.

191. In this regard I am taken to Kanda v Government of Malaysia [1962] AC 322, where Lord Denning at page 337 said :

" If the right to be heard is to be a real right which is worth anything, it must carry with it a right in the accused man to know the case which is made against him. He must know what evidence has been given and what statements have been made affecting him : and then he must be given a fair opportunity to correct or contradict them. This appears in all the cases from the celebrated judgment of Lord Loreburn L.C. in Board of Education v. Rice [1911] A.C. 179,182; 27 T.L.R. 378, H.L. down to the decision of their Lordships' Board in Ceylon University v. Fernando [1960] 1 W.L.R. 223; [1960] 1 All E.R. 631, P.C. It follows, of course, that the judge or whoever has to adjudicate must not hear evidence or receive representations from one side behind the back of the other."

192. The principle holds good for this case, but the facts upon which Kanda turned can readily be distinguished. In Kanda an adjudicating officer made recommendations to the Police Commissioner for the dismissal of a police inspector. The Commissioner approved the recommendation and, on his direction, the inspector was dismissed. But the adjudicating officer had before him a report, personally adverse to the inspector, which had not been disclosed to the officer then at risk of dismissal. The more appropriate analogy in the case which is now before me would arise had the interviewing officers had in their possession adverse information relating to the person of an applicant which had not been put to that applicant.

193. From Kanda, I was drawn to In re H.K. [1967] 2 QB 617, where it was said that an immigration officer had failed to give to an immigrant an opportunity of removing an impression from the mind of the officer that the immigrant was over an age which would disentitle him to remain in the United Kingdom, and evidence was placed before the court, which it was said would have relieved the officer of his misgivings. So, too, Mr Dykes claims, would the applicants have placed evidence before Mr Choy, which would or might satisfactorily have answered such question marks as had been raised about the credibility of the applicants. On the facts of the case cited, the complaint did not succeed because :

" It is impossible to believe other than that both father and son knew full well of what they had to satisfy the authorities. They were, as it seems to me, given ample opportunity to do so." (per Lord Parker C.J., at p.631).

194. I shall shortly turn to that very issue, namely, whether in this case the applicants knew full well of what they had to satisfy the authorities, and whether they were given ample opportunity to do so.

195. The applicants also pray in aid the decision in R v Secretary of State for the Home Department ex parte Fayed and Another [1997] 1 All ER 228, where the Court of Appeal in England quashed the decision of the Home Secretary, because he had failed to provide to the applicants for naturalisation information about the subject matter of his concern; concern which led him to refuse the application. It is to be noted, however, that in that case :

"...neither of the [applicants had] ever been informed what were the aspects of the applications which have given rise to difficulties or reservations about their applications." (per Lord Woolf MR at p.232).

In other words, they simply had no idea as to those matters about which they needed to satisfy the authorities.

196. I do not know whether section 13E has been used by the Director other than in this case or, if it has been used, in what circumstances. One suspects that when framed and enacted, what was visualised was the emergence of some adverse fact or consideration well after a favourable section 13A decision. In such circumstances, conflation of the inquiry processes or of decision making would not arise, and one would then normally expect the grounds for removal to be put, in a separate exercise, to the refugee who has previously been landed under section 13A. Looked at in that light, and removed from the facts of this case, the applicants proposed answer to Question 5 (which is that the Director must of course notify the applicants of the proposed decision under section 13E) would appear to be well grounded.

197. But the answer cannot be wrenched from the facts of this case, and the procedural history of this case demonstrates to my satisfaction that, although they were not told in terms that the interviewing exercise had section 13E well in mind, they knew full well that the questions they were asked and to which they were giving answers, the matters about which they had to satisfy the authorities, were matters which went directly and fully to the question whether there was reasonable excuse not to go back to the Mainland, and that if there was not, they were liable to be returned by the Director in the exercise of her power to order their return under section 13E of the Ordinance. It is a point which was made by the applicants themselves in the case presented on their behalf in the Privy Council :

" The evidence about their treatment in China will be the evidence which, if accepted, should satisfy the Director of Immigration that Article 1E of the Convention does not apply. It should also satisfy the Director that it would be reasonable for them to refuse an offer of resettlement in that country if one were made to them." (see paragraph 83 of the Appellant's Case).

198. The risk of the Director invoking section 13E upon a favourable determination under section 13A must also have been appreciated by those representing the applicants. It was referred to by Mortimer JA (as he then was) in Nguyen Tuan Cuong, at page 83 :

"...even if an applicant is afforded refugee status, it seems to me that the Director's powers under s.13E are wide enough for him to order the removal of that person without delay now that China has agreed to accept him back," (emphasis added)

- a passage to which the applicants' Case in the Privy Council referred, arguing however that the exercise of that power in that way was not inevitable because the applicants had a reasonable excuse to challenge removal, and that that reasonable excuse was that they had been poorly treated, that their rights had not been and would not be respected, and that they feared persecution in China. It was said that it would be "Wednesbury unreasonable for the Director to invoke section 13E to remove them to China".

199. The questionnaire designed for the screening exercise and the questions asked were directed at the history of the applicants in China since their flight from Vietnam, their economic and social rights in China, why they left China, and why they did not wish to return. They knew what the issues were. They knew of what they had to satisfy the authorities. The questions they were asked were, as they must have known, directly relevant to the issue whether their refusal to return to the Mainland was reasonable, and it was to that question that their answers were directed.

200. I am satisfied in the circumstances that fairness did not require a separate section 13E exercise; or that the applicants or their advisers be told in terms that the questions were or were also directed to that end; or that the Director notify them of her proposed decision to order their removal.

201. The suggestion is advanced that the applicants ought to have been given an opportunity of addressing Mr Choy since he was the decision maker. I fail to see how in reality the applicants were disadvantaged. It was not necessary for Mr Choy himself to interview the applicants. The officers who did interview them were trained especially for this exercise. The questionnaires which they were to use were designed specifically for it. The chain of command, and the system by which interviewing officers report up the line with recommendations is the same as we see discussed in Director of Immigration v Le Tu Phong [1994] 2 HKLR 212, and that which is common, sensible and practicable in immigration settings. Added to which is the testimony of Mr Choy that he did not rubber stamp recommendations, but himself actively considered the merits of each case.

202. It will always be possible to cull from the detail of any procedure adopted, especially from a prolonged exercise with a history such as that to be found in this case, steps that were not taken, opportunities that were not offered, considerations that were not expressly put, and to postulate one or a host of propositions which begin : "If only...". Yet from beginning to end, the question which faces the court always remains the same : "Was the procedure adopted a fair procedure?" - and if an applicant knew full well what the issue was, and was given in respect of that issue a full opportunity to make his case, then a court is likely to find that the applicant was treated fairly, and is likely to look askance at submissions which seek to take the court away from the question of simple fairness to a question of perfection, or which invites the court to encourage that which Lord Wilberforce in Wiseman v Borneman [1971] AC 297, 320 labelled "an infinite process of contestation".

203. On the evidence which is thus far before me I conclude that, whilst it is possible to say that the applicants might have been afforded further opportunities to make representations, they were nonetheless treated with procedural fairness. That is not to forestall any arguments that might arise on the question of bad faith or predisposition. The conclusion which I reach and which is reached, as I say, on the evidence thus far before me, is that the answer to Question 5 is 'No'.

VI. CONCLUSIONS

204. The answers therefore to the questions posed are as follows :

1. (1) The Director, having determined in an exercise conducted under section 13A of the Immigration Ordinance that the applicants were refugees from Vietnam in China, was bound to permit them to remain in Hong Kong pending resettlement, but was not in the circumstances of this case bound to provide them with an opportunity to seek resettlement in a country other than China.

(2) The Director was entitled, as a matter of law, and in the circumstances of this case, immediately after granting such a person permission to remain under section 13A, to make a removal order under section 13E.

2. None of the reasons given by the Director in the Notices of Determination for making the removal orders was bad as taking into account irrelevant considerations, or as failing to take into account relevant considerations, or as resulting from a misconstruction of law or documents relied upon. Although the Director has (or has probably) misread the intended effect of a passage in the judgment of the Privy Council in Nguyen Tuan Cuong, the misreading is of no consequence since the Director's conclusion as to the applicants' entitlement or lack of it was, as a matter of law, correct. Accordingly, the Director has by that misreading not misdirected herself in law or unlawfully fettered her discretion.

3. The Director was not required to put to the applicants country condition evidence before making a final determination about them.

4. The Director was (generally) not required to provide the applicants with copies of previous statements made by them which were used in the decision making process by the Director so as to enable them to comment upon or correct them.

5. The Director was not, in the circumstances which prevailed, obliged to notify the applicants of her proposed decision to make removal orders under section 13E, or to state the grounds upon which she proposed to make her decision, or to provide documents relied upon.

205. I believe that the issues which are resolved by this judgment dispose of those which are raised by the application for judicial review save for the allegation that the Director was predisposed to determine the case against the applicants, and save for those matters which the applicants wish to raise by way of amendment to the existing grounds. I shall, on a date to be fixed, hear counsel further, when they may invite me to such issues, if any, as they believe remain to be addressed, and advance argument on the application to amend, and such other outstanding applications as it is intended to pursue.

(F. Stock)

Judge of the Court of First Instance
High Court

Representation:

Mr William Marshall, S.C., and Miss Joyce Chan, of the Department of Justice, for the Respondent

Mr Philip Dykes, S.C., and Mr Matthew Chong, inst'd by M/s Pam Baker & Co, for the Applicants

31444-EN-1997-12-15

TRAN THANG LAM and OTHERS v. THE DIRECTOR OF IMMIGRATION

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